People Who Deserve To Get The Living Sh** Beaten Out Of Them On A Weekly Basis..
by Bill Simon
These are the people who deserve a bruising beating, once a week, for the length of time they serve in jail OR instead of killing them on Death Row, as the case may be:
Saddam Hussein: Saddam will probably be hanged for his crimes. Frankly, that’s just too damned soft of a punishment for me. He should be in pain every day of his life until he dies. And, in fact, I would encourage medical treatment of him so as to prolong his life just so he can live and look forward to another weekly beating. Killing him outright is no justice for his crimes against humanity.
Jack Abramoff: This little f***er (along with his “good Christian Con-Man” pal Ralph Reed) took money to help maintain the slave workforce being used to make clothing for big-time American clothing manufacturers on the Marianis Islands. To hell with Abramoff serving time in a white-collar crime prison…we need to get back to the good ‘ole Old Testament way of doing things and just stone the bastard.
Anyone got any other ideas of people who are alive who deserve a good beating for their crimes against humanity?
Blog about them here, stating what they did and what the punishment is they deserve that our “civilized society” will never do to them.
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October 9th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
How can you put the two in the same category. Saddam killed thousands.
October 9th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
Charles Walker. For 20 years, no DEM in this state had the courage to stand up to this guy whom a jury decided stole millions from Georgia taxpayers. Finally, justice prevailed, partially.
October 9th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Bill,
Dude I got to agree with Josh. To much coffee?
October 9th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
John and Josh have a point, Bill. Though I think I already mentioned making certain PedoPhile (ex)Congressmen sing soprano permanently . . .
I’m also thinking we should make the Republican members of the FCC sit and watch Bud TV and the Home Shopping Network for at least 8 hours a week. Then maybe they’ll give us our local programming back again and not turn the internet into more of the same ol’ same ol’ that’s on the idiot box. It confounds me that Net Neutrality is a BIpartisan movement outside of the halls of congress, but split right down the middle inside them. So who isn’t listening to their constituents? Okay, I’m off my soapbox now . . .
October 9th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
Josh,
It wasn’t a “comparison” piece. Saddam murdered millions for no reason other than he was a sociopath.
Abramoff is a political mercenary who took money to screw thousands of people in the Marianas and make them continue to live a horrible, slave-based existence.
Those are just two people who deserve a weekly beating. Maybe Saddam needs to be worked over with brass knuckles. Maybe Abramoff needs to be worked-over with soap-bars in socks.
These people (and others) deserve to feel physical pain as their punishment to make-up for the physical and emotional pain they caused so many others.
October 9th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
BJ,
Your post deserved to be in the “Open Blog” thread.
October 9th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
Why? Doesn’t Bud TV and the Home Shopping Network count as excruciatingly cruel and unusual punishment?
October 10th, 2006 at 6:05 am
Bill,
You big on eye for an eye!
October 10th, 2006 at 6:48 am
Bill,
As opposed to weekly beating for Abramoff, send him to work in the Marianas.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:49 am
BJ,
I’m not sure what “Bud TV” is, but the HSN ocasionally has hot chicks on there as models…
October 10th, 2006 at 6:50 am
John,
Yes, I am. I’m a man of God, after all who believes in the Old Testament way of dealing in justice.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:02 am
Bill,
I would like to see a debat about God between you and Ralph Reed! We could sell tickets and have Sadie on the panel.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:05 am
We could make even more interesting and have Linda in the debate as well.
The second debate could be between John and Bart.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:07 am
John,
I try not to associate too much with sinners…like Ralph Reed and the nuts who support him.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:37 am
How about Bill O’Reilly….
I don’t know about him deserving a beating. I just would like him to have one. He is very annoying! No one can be right all of the time.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:19 am
Add to the beating list, those who introduced and supported banning online poker…I don’t even play, but aren’t there a couple of more important items to be dealing with like N. Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, et al than some guy running up his VISA card playing Hold ‘em?
October 10th, 2006 at 9:24 am
Josh,
I would like to hear Bart defend runaway spending!
October 10th, 2006 at 9:26 am
John & Josh,
You’re both teetering on the edge of thread-jacking here…don’t get me pissed with this unrelated debate bullshit.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:28 am
Bart,
I have to give you credit not backing the party line. I do think the under age kids betting on the internet is a problem.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:33 am
Bill,
You are an eye for an eye guy!
October 10th, 2006 at 9:59 am
It’s called parenting John…if somehow underage kids have access to mommy’s VISA card, partypoker.com and the time to run up huge debts, then mommy should be added to the s**t kicking list.
October 10th, 2006 at 10:07 am
Online gambling is a growing problem and proactive legislation is always the right answer. So, I will add people who make tons of money from online gambling and think it does not hurt anyone to the list of beat down victims!
October 10th, 2006 at 10:41 am
I agree with Bart on this one.
If a kid gets ahold of a credit-card to set-up an online gambling account, that IS the fault of the parent, John, not the online gaming industry.
Whose fault is it that the kid gets cigarettes? The parents for not making sure their kid knew that cigarette smoking is a vile activity.
October 10th, 2006 at 11:21 am
Nick,
So if someone has a bad date via eharmony, should congress step in to end online meetups?
What about online instant messaging…time for congress to ban that since even its own members can’t refrain from misusing that service.
How far does Big Nanny govt. need to go Nick to protect idiots from themselves?
October 10th, 2006 at 11:25 am
Bill,
I guess I’m getting a bit off target with the rest of the posters, but there should be no legislation whatsoever regarding online gambling. None. It’s a fricking waste of our legislator’s time. If you’re addicted to online gambling, tough s**t, it’s your problem, not society’s. It’s the same with regular gambling, cigarette smoking and the other vices. The cigarette companies should not have had to pay one cent to “victims” of tobacco. Anyone who could read after the early 1960’s knew it was bad for you. And why do casinos sponsor “responsible gambling” programs. It’s Bull***t! Take responsibility for your own actions and quit whining and raiding the pockets of others.
October 10th, 2006 at 11:56 am
Bill & Bart,
Should we let kids drink in bars? Should we let kids buy cigarettes?
Should we let a kid buy drinks with a credit card and other form of ID?
As a parent I do agree the first person stepping up should be the parents.Yet the problem with the internet, we have a system kids can violate without a safe system to check the age of the person.
October 10th, 2006 at 11:57 am
Sorry,
no other form of ID.
October 10th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
John
With those kinds of questions, don’t ever try to pass yourself off as a “Libertarian” again.
October 10th, 2006 at 12:09 pm
David,
Don’t sweat the off-topic stuff…Bart has successfully introduced a subject that both Bart and I (and you) are in total agreement of and on quite the opposite side of the issue from John Konop, apparently.
Now, let’s keep the discussion civil and on topic only (i.e., no personal invectives).
October 10th, 2006 at 12:24 pm
Joh, I have to side with Bill and Bart on this one, even though I have no love of gambling companies nor what they wreak. People have to take responsibility for themselves and their own actions. They also have to take responsibility for the behavior of their children. If parents are too busy pursuing Mammon and living the good life to pay attention to what their kids are doing, then the resulting devastation is their fault and theirs alone.
Besides, we’re talking about the world wide web here. These gambling sites move to servers in Mexico or some offshore island, and they’re out of US jurisdiction. Obviously our so called lawmakers haven’t considered all the ramifications of this one. At least there’s some control over things if the servers reside in the US, say in the event of scam or what have you. Now there’s going to be no control unless the US creates a firewall similar to the Great Firewall of China, which NO ONE in the US wants.
October 10th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
This is easy. A known vice, gambling, has surfaced in a different form, online gambling. It is already regulated in its original form why would you not regulate a different version of the same vice. This is not big brother telling you what you can not do. This is responsible proactive government.
October 10th, 2006 at 12:46 pm
All of you avoid the minor issue. If I follow your logic bars should not have to check State issued ID for buying drinks? The issue about gambling is you have now way to verify age of a minor online.
October 10th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
Bart,
Some in Congress are trying to kill the page program because of a lack of control.I do not agree with killing the program, but you bring up an interesting issue.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
Nick,
Sweet candy is a “vice” if people abuse it to the point of gaining TONS of weight and rotting their teeth out.
Should we seek to regulate the production and distribution of it as a vice as well?
From what book of life did you derive the concept that everything that becomes a “vice” for someone should be regulated and/or banned?
October 10th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
Poor Saddam!
On the one hand he gets all this credit for being a Bad Azz who killed hundreds of thousands of people.
But, mostly his little prick friends did the slaughter.
Saddam gets the rope and his friends get the last laugh.
“Hey, remember that guy that used to run the country? What was his name?”
“Who are you talking about? That guy with the mustache that didn’t know how to load an AK?”
“No, no, no … the guy that always lived underground and wore make-up to look tan.”
“Yeah, yeah, yeah! I remember him. His family turned him into the US for $25 million.”
“YEAH! That’s the guy! But, I heard the family never got the money.”
“No, that’s not true. The US always pays the bounty but they traded for an Amway Dealership and a Holiday Inn franchise in New Jersey!”
“I remember that! Hussein Hotel! We leave the gas on for you!”
October 11th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
John, the ban against online gambling was not passed because of kids. In fact, children are not mentioned in the legislation. It was passed because big nanny government was not getting their cut, it appeals to the voting base of the GOP and mostly it protects idiots from hurting themselves financially. Maybe they will soon come to realize more money is wasted on lottery tickets by poor folks than will ever be gambled online via poker sites.
October 11th, 2006 at 1:27 pm
Bart,
I am in the industry and that issue has come up.I will not bore you about different technologies that are being tested. The internet identity fraud via payments online is a big topic at every ETA conference. The payment system is based on volume, yet if out of control the fraud could kill the golden goose.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/intgambling/stories/opinion072598.htm
http://www.fox6.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=6A93C4A2-E905-4842-9EE8-7B7767B7498F
http://www.gamcare.org.uk/site.builder/onlinehelp.html
October 11th, 2006 at 4:28 pm
What does that have to do with congress deserving a good ass kicking for banning internet gambling? Are you suggesting all online transactions be halted until id theft is eliminated? Or that credit card issuers should be added to the ass kicked list?
October 11th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
Bart,
I did not talk about banning internet transaction.You said that kids gambling on the internet was not an issue. I just demonstrated you were wrong.
October 11th, 2006 at 8:03 pm
John, I know a guy who can’t get a job because his identity was highjacked by a multiple felon. In his case the authorities have been worse than the identity theft situation. No one has done anything to help him, despite numerous pleas, numerous letters, numerous proof that he’s the real deal and the felon stole his name. The authorities in this case aren’t enforcing the laws that are already on the books, they won’t straighten out the record, what the heck difference will MORE laws make? Until they enforce the ones that are there, they’re useless.
As to the minors thing, last I knew you had to be 18 to get a credit card. And you need a credit card to gamble online. If parents are handing over credit cards to minors and not supervising them, that’s not the government’s problem. That’s the PARENT’S problem.
October 11th, 2006 at 8:27 pm
bj,
The minnor issue is how do you check a valid ID to make sure the person is 18 on the internet.
October 11th, 2006 at 8:43 pm
John, as I said before, this is a matter of Parental oversight.
Tavern owners check IDs but that doesn’t stop underage kids from buying booze with fake IDs. And in that case it’s also, in my mind, a matter of parental oversight. Should the tavern owner be held responsible if Junior screws up? No. the parents should.
October 11th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
Parental oversight?
What a crock!!!! What hippocracy!!!
So you didn’t break a single parental rule as a child? As a teenage?
Do you folks even have a life?
Laffing laffing laffing
Do you even know the source of your bias against parents?
October 11th, 2006 at 9:18 pm
You don’t, do you?
The nobles owned the serfs that lived on the land.
The serfs owned their children. If the child screwed up, the parents were punished (that’s the entire family in a feudal system).
In some Roman eras, depending upon who ruled Rome, if the son committed a capital crime (death penalty), the father was the executioner. He owned his sons life.
Have you’all heard of the enlightenment?
Modern law… pull your heads out!
October 11th, 2006 at 9:30 pm
Bill (or whoever)
I don’t think there’s any such thing as a pure Libertarian. But if people just gotta have gambling, prostitution, drugs, ect…then let’s give it to ‘em. But first we gotta get rid of any form of socialism. I’m sick of paying for other people’s mistakes. First things first. So how about some technology that stops gambling at the state line? Why should they stop it across the board? Every state is different. Outlawing online gambling in Nevada? Why, to protect the casinos?
October 11th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
And I think Abramoff’s biggest crime had to be dressing up like inspector gadget.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4838792.stm
October 12th, 2006 at 7:15 am
Bj,
What if their is no system to check ID at the tarvern.This is the same problem with immigration. The Visa check system is broken. About 50% of illegals come here legally, but overstay their visa.
Why not fix the system before letting it get out of control?
October 12th, 2006 at 7:33 am
John, if the tavern owner doesn’t check ID then he or she made a bad choice and is liable.
This sounds like a law ENFORCEMENT problem. More laws just creates more law enforcement problems.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:57 pm
Bill
I’m all about taking care of my own people. So I think we should forgive Ralph Reed. AFTER THEY FEED HIM TO THE LIONS.
And I’ll give Ann Coulter the best sex she ever had. THEN I’LL THROW HER OFF A CLIFF JUST FOR TRYING TO CATEGORIZE MY ASS!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
–quote–
Laffing laffing laffing
Do you even know the source of your bias against parents?
–unquote–
My bias is against parents who use excuses to relinquish responsibility, or whine that the law or the school or someone else should pick up the slack.
And to fill you in on who exactly is saying this, it’s coming from a single mother who raised her son without the benefit of child support and with very little help from anyone. My son is now a college graduate, happily employed in his field and has a woman who he’s crazy about and who loves him back. He’s making good choices. So Mike, ya wanna tell me how wrong I am?
October 16th, 2006 at 8:58 am
Hey BJ,
You’re wrong. One good experience or one bad experience out of 6 billion isn’t a sample that proves anything.
I’m a grandfather of two.
All three of my children graduated college. My oldest is a cardiologist in Boston.
All of which makes me nothing of an expert in raising children.
Blaming parents is how you cope with life.
It’s pagan. It’s country. It’s backwards. It’s redneck.
You’re not experienced enough to know that children are not property.
You might as well get a tape measure and argue about who is taller as argue about how parents are destroying your world.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:42 am
“You might as well get a tape measure and argue about who is taller as argue about how parents are destroying your world.”
I don’t recall EVER saying that parents are destroying my world. I simply said that enforcing laws already on the books is much preferable to doubling the size of those books, which has the consequence of making all laws on the books tougher and more expensive to enforce.
I also said that anyone who relinquishes responsibility deserves whatever consequences result and the rest of us shouldn’t have to listen to their whining or suffer the unintended consequences when those folks are successful in getting someone else to take on their responsibilities.
As to my level of experience and my knowledge, you’ve made a judgement about both based upon a few sentences on a blog.
October 16th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
Bj,
A few sentences or a few posts?
Your dramaturgy is to blame others for not being responsible to your standards.
Parents today. Democrats, liberals, media, terrorists, bloggers…
You know how to blame others. It’s all you know.
Stop your whinning about people making judgements about you since you do make judgements every day about other people.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:00 pm
LOL! I think you better look in the mirror, Mad Dog. Those flecks of foam at the corners of your mouth are becoming all too evident!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:49 am
Bill
you could start another blog and call it “The octagon” http://youtube.com/watch?v=8tls8plMO0o
October 17th, 2006 at 7:58 am
AND YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF DAMN IDIOTS!!!
(hehe)
October 17th, 2006 at 8:20 am
BJ,
Mad Dog is always an interesting read!
October 17th, 2006 at 9:26 am
John, you’ve got that right! And my friends and co-workers, especially the Manhattan crew, got a HUGE laugh out of the fact that he called me a redneck!
BTW, John, I know you have an interest in the identity theft issue. Some folks I know in Texas are dealing with it up close and personal and it’s an amazing and horrifying story. Scott has started to blog about it, though he hasn’t really gotten active with it yet. You might find opening up a dialog with him would give you some insight into what’s NOT working re present laws. And to keep this “on topic” the felon who stole Scott’s name deserves the wrath of hell.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:31 am
bj,
I agree with you. The finacial system is based on valid information. We need to upgrade to smart card technology for financial transaction. The platform change would help in security for ID theft.
I have been in the industry for close to 20 years. The problem is the solution will always change. The bad guys figure out the security fix quicker and faster from the past.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:34 am
bj,
BTW interesting site.
October 17th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
From what Scott’s wife, Shayne, has told me, much of the problem was in the lack of enforcement of existing laws and in the inability of officials to correct the errors. The poor guy can’t get a job at Walmart right now, even though he’s got true creds that would in normal circumstances impress employers on a much higher level. In this particular instance, and I suspect in others as well, the failure is on MANY levels. Scott and Shayne aren’t dummies, Shayne works at a paralegal at one of the nation’s top law firms, yet they can’t get the situation rectified.
October 17th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
bj,
If you move toward a smart card environment you would avoid the security breach issue short term. Also this would help credit agencies in changing and updating record.
As far as Government agencies, if they followed much of what we do in the financial service payment industry they would have fewer problems. We have requirements called CISP.
http://usa.visa.com/business/accepting_visa/ops_risk_management/cisp.html
BTW all forms of payments have similar requirements.
To give you a few examples of what would help.
We do not store credit card information at the terminal level anymore. Look at your ticket now you will notice only last 4 digits. You cannot take any financial information outside of the process area which is secured and filmed. Everyone must sign in and out on all financial records.
You would not see social security numbers on a home lap top in my industry. I do not want to get to boring, but the Government does not run a tight ship. The problem compounds if you cannot trust the Governments information or security process. In the private sector we make a money judgment call based on information we can trust.
This is not what your friends want to hear. I am moving transaction based on basis point margins. We have little room for error. And the Government has no downside for being supply with the information.
I hope I did not bore you. This is a very quick overview.
October 17th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
bj,
I do not know the law enforcement side that well. I am only talking about fixing the information side.
October 17th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
Well, I think a better understanding of what these folks had happen to them might help craft better laws. Oversight has to be built into this whole process somehow. You can’t have one person with two sets of fingerprints.
You’re right about the government being a leaky ship.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
bj,
We do not even have finger prints. A smart card can have more ID information on the card (ie chip), And you can but in extra protection.
Right now all the information protection is at the host only. Not a two check system. And the host system at the Governemt is sometimes manual, and lacks basic operational P & P.
You can pass all the laws you want, but you got to fix the ship!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Bill Campbell should be added to the daily flogging list.
This reprehensible excuse for a human being fleeced his own constituency for nearly a decade, embarrassed Atlanta with his Olympic Games pocket lining escapades and committed “world class” public adultery.
He should be claening toliets at the Atlanta Federal Pen.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
I agree about Campbell deserving the beating every week.
Just for different reasons.
Anytime a politician gets caught and convicted, let’s have public beatings.
November 7th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
Kanye West. Brainless, talentless, short- tempered egomaniac. The jerk refers to his own songs as ‘Classics,’ and once referred to himself as ‘Bigger than Elvis.’ At the European VMAs, he threw a temper tantrum when a French band beat him in one of the video categories. He ran up on stage, mistook the host of the event accepting the award for one of the members of the band that beat him (They weren’t in attendance), and said to them, “Nothing against you man, I’ve never seen your video but hell no.”
This jerk really needs to get his butt kicked from here to Kalamazoo to teach him a little humility.