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Lynn Westmoreland Should Try Out For The Role Of “Gomer Pyle” In The Movie Version

by Bill Simon

Sure as I’m sittin’ here, I witnessed Congressman Lynn Westmoreland (R-Dumbass) appear on last night’s The Colbert Report and demonstrate exactly why Georgia is at the bottom of the education scale in America, if not the whole world.

Colbert had his “Know your congressional district” series on with Westmoreland as his subject.

Towards the end, Colbert asked Westmoreland if it was true he co-sponsored a bill that would require the Ten Commandments be posted in the House of Representatives and in the Senate, to which Westmoreland said “Yes.”

Colbert then asked him “Well, is there any other building other than a public building that should post the Ten Commandments?”

To which Westmoreland said “No.”

THEN…Colbert asked Westmoreland “What are the Ten Commandments? Name them.”

Westmoreland’s face went blank for a moment, and then he started stumbling-out an answer in which he named LESS THAN FIVE COMMANDMENTS!!!!

Really now, for such a simple set of instructions that is (according to people like Westmoreland) the bedrock of our country, one would think that Westmoreland would have them as committed to memory as he thinks everyone else in America should have them committed to memory.

Perhaps someone needs to develop the Ten Commandments Toilet Roll…because, you can get some good reading done while you’re visiting the porcelain god.

If you want to catch this on the repeat, tune into Comedy Central (The Comedy Channel) at 10:30 AM on Thursday (June 15) and then at 8:30 PM Thursday night.

Damn…that’s funnier than Larry, The Cable Guy. Lynn has a GREAT future as a comedian.

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70 Responses to “Lynn Westmoreland Should Try Out For The Role Of “Gomer Pyle” In The Movie Version”

  1. Albert Says:

    That’s funny right there..

  2. Sam Says:

    Shows what a good conservative he is….On top of that he endorsed Stephens.

  3. Bill Simon Says:

    As well as Ralph Reed…

  4. Albert Says:

    Wonder how they reconcile, “Thou Shalt not bear false witness….”

  5. Bill Simon Says:

    In the political bubble, none of the laws of God apply with most of these guys. They presume that because THEY are lawmakers, they take-on the role of being a god, and therefore are exempt from following the laws or commandments of ANY other god.

  6. Oscar Says:

    I grow weary of all these pontificating politicos bashing the public schools, when some (most?) of them are as dumb as dirt. This hick from the sticks couldn’t even name all of his beloved Ten Commandments! I wonder how he’d do on a junior high Algebra test?

  7. Albert Says:

    is there a clip of this anywhere? I tried to find it on Direct TV but couldn’t. That there is right funny and deserves to be seen.

  8. LINDA Says:

    I am sure that the Lord would not criticize Lynn Westmoreland for not being able to recite the Ten Commandments. Lynn Westmoreland is doing what Jesus commands of his followers, and he is carrying the cross into the public square.

  9. LINDA Says:

    Do not forget that Jesus is “I am.” Read John in the King James Version of the Holy Bible to be enlightened.

  10. Bill Simon Says:

    The Lord would criticize Lynn for being a hypocrite in trying to force others to learn what he has not.

  11. LINDA Says:

    No, the Lord that I know does not expect that any of his children should be perfect. You see, I am a born again Christian and have been one since that age of 11. I cannot recite the Ten Commandments verbatum, but I had the priviledge of going to schools in Indiana and Kentucky where they were posted in classrooms. I was taught by God fearing Christian teachers that led us in prayer before we left our seats to go to lunch. When you grow up with the knowledge of the Ten Commandments, then you know that there is only one truth for what is right and what is wrong. You may violate God’s will throughout your life, but a Christian knows when they have broken the law that the Lord has commanded. But that is why Jesus died for our sins because there is no man or woman that will ever be without sin, but Jesus himself. So to emphasize again, the Lord is proud of all his children that march forward and continue to fight the controversy that has been going on for 2,006 years now. Lynn Westmoreland is loved by the Lord, so long as his heart is with Christ.

  12. caroline Says:

    Why oh Why am I not surprised to find someone coming here to defend the idiocy of Westmorland?

  13. LINDA Says:

    Oh Caroline,

    Are you surprised that Christians blog, too? I wanted to be a missionary when I was younger, but took another path. But now the Internet has allowed the defenders of Christianity to fight on the World Wide Web. Is it not great that we have the First Amendment? We Christians have to stand together, and fight the battle.

  14. LINDA Says:

    To any other Christians reading this blog and comments, I recently donated to “Dare To Be A Daniel” through the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association: http://www.billygraham.org. The children are our future and this program is to reach our youth to teach them God’s love. God loves you very much Bill, and I know that he wants for you to grow to know the love of his son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

  15. Bill Simon Says:

    Linda, you don’t even follow the Ten Commandments…today’s YOUR Sabbath.

    But, I’ll bet you’re like all the others out there…preach and beat everyone over the head with the Bible and meanwhile, ignore whatever you want to at will, right?

  16. caroline Says:

    Well, I was being snarky. There are plenty of apologists on the web. If you think that Westmoreland helps Christianity you are deluded. He just made people who support putting the Ten Comandments on court houses look like idiots. And dumb.

  17. Bill D Says:

    Linda, do you not recognise the Constitutional separation of Church and State?

    You can be religious, just don’t force it on everyone else.

  18. LINDA Says:

    Bill,

    Jesus said that the Sabbath was a good day to do the Lord’s work. My I suggest a trip to Pigeon Forge, TN to attend the extraordinary stage production of “The Miracle.” It is excellent.

  19. LINDA Says:

    On another Sabbath, he entered the synagogue and was teaching, and a man was there whose right hand was withered. 7 And the scribes and the Pharisees watched him, to see whether he would heal on the Sabbath, so that they might find a reason to accuse him. 8 But he knew their thoughts, and he said to the man with the withered hand, “Come and stand here.” And he rose and stood there. 9 And Jesus said to them, “I ask you, is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do harm, to save life or to destroy it?” 10 And after looking around at them all he said to him, “Stretch out your hand.” And he did so, and his hand was restored. 11 But they were filled with fury and discussed with one another what they might do to Jesus. Luke 6:6-11

    So you see the Pharisees were plotting to crucify Christ on the Sabbath. This was the work of evil on the Sabbath, and they were the hypocrites. You opened the door wide open for a debate, and as a Christian I was available to open your eyes and the eyes of others.

  20. LINDA Says:

    Dear Caroline,

    Do you believe in the Ten Commandments? Are you an atheist? What is your complaint against those that want to restore values in the United States? I am just wondering why you are so bitter.

  21. caroline Says:

    Linda
    Quit the fundamentalist b.s. You’re “either wid me or agin'” is the rhetoric of losers. I’m a christian who happens to think that my beliefs don’t need the government to prop them up. Don’t project your bitterness onto me.

    And Westmoreland has become a national laughing stock. So if you thinks that helps your cause, you are living in a fantasy world.

  22. LINDA Says:

    Dear Caroline,

    I have not heard that Westmoreland is a laughing stock anywhere but here! If you are a born again Christian, you would not attack another Christian. I am not pushing bitterness onto you. I am happy, and rejoice in defending Christianity. I want children to know the Lord, and I pray that other Christians awake from their timid slumber to band together. You seem to forget that the people are the government, as it is not some separate entity like a corporation. The government gets its life blood from the people, and Christians deserve a seat at the table. Afterall, there are close to 90% of the population that claims to be Christian in this country.

  23. Bill D Says:

    Linda, you must realise that you cannot force others to be Christian. It is perfectly fine if you are a Christian, that is something that you certainly have a right to be.

    But, there are other people of other religions, or no religion, as well as non-Evangelical Christians in America. You cannot intrude upon their right to not have religious views they do not have pressed upon them.

    There is a separation of Church and State in the Constitution, something that protects the Church from meddling from the State (as in, Central Government, not State as in California or Ohio) the State from meddling by the Church, and the people from oppression in the name of religion.

    Also, Linda, stop acting as if Christians are oppressed. Such a belief is laughable in a country with such a high number of Christians.

  24. caroline Says:

    You should get out more if you think people aren’t laughing at Westmoreland. Do you have the ability to reason? He’s a guy who wants to put the ten commandments on courhouses who doesn’t even know what they are?

    Okay, you say a Christian should not “attack” another Christian but you did just that by justifying in your mind that I’m not “the right kind of Christian.” In your world, I guess you’re always the victim and anybody who isn’t 100% with you is an atheist?

    All of congress are christians, the president is a christian, and you are saying that christians need a seat at the table? I think you are wallowing too much in the “christians are victims” syndrome.

  25. LINDA Says:

    Dear Caroline,

    I think you know not what you are talking about. When you say all Congress ae Christians, then you are the one that is misguided. We have at least 12 Senaators that are Jewish, and several in the U.S. Congress.

    I think your attacks on Westmoreland rests more on the fact that you do not seem to be in the least bit of a conservative mind. Now if Mr. Westmoreland did something to disgrace his office, you may or may not be justified in attacking him. But, not being able to recite the Ten Commandments does not justify vicious attacks. If this is what liberals laugh about, it just shows that Ann Coulter is right when she says they are “Godless.” And I truly think that Bill Simon is not only Godless, but he is also a closet liberal.

  26. LINDA Says:

    I need to clarify my reasoning that I say that Bill Simon is “Godless.” In another post Bill says that he is an Old Testament guy, so as a Christian I believe him to be Godless because he has not accepted Christ even with all of the miracles recorded in John (I believe there were seven just in this book). Furthermore, he does not grasp that Reagan would be pushing for the Marriage Amendment Ban out of the U.S. Congress if he were still alive. Only a liberal would not understand President Reagan’s strong religous foundation. You see conservatism and Christianity go hand in hand, you can’t have one without the other.

  27. Sam Says:

    Linda,
    Bill Simon is Jewish

  28. LINDA Says:

    Well so was Jesus and his disciples!

  29. Bill Simon Says:

    So, Jesus was a liberal then for that day and time period, right Linda?

  30. LINDA Says:

    Dear Bill D.,

    You are so wrong when you say that Christians are not oppressed in this Country! How do you think the Ten Commandments were forced out of classrooms? To the other Christians out there that are not evangelical Christians, then it is time that they got with the program and learned that there is not other way to Heaven than to be born again.

    As a born again Christian, I will spread my faith whereever the opportunity affords me. The separation between church and state has been twisted out of context in the United States. Christians are the ones that are defending this country abroad, and are the ones dying for my right as a Christian to make sure that the New Testament does not become outlawed in the United States!

  31. Bill Simon Says:

    Linda,

    Are you afraid of Jewish people? Do you think they are going to Hell? Do you thnk they have horns on their heads?

    Do you think they are behind a plot to turn America into a godless, atheistic country?

  32. LINDA Says:

    Dear Bill,

    I think that many Jews are afraid of Christianity, which is a very paranoid state of belief. There is no other County in the history of the world that has provided more safety and security to the Jews than the United States. Yes, I do believe that the Jews will go to hell if they do not accept Jesus Christ as their saviour. I also believe that Muslims, Hindus, Budhists, atheist gentiles and any other non-Christian believer will go to hell if they do not accept Christ as their savior. I do not think that Jews have horns on their heads, but I do believe that many of them have vile hatred for Christians in their hearts.

    As I spread the word of Jesus Christ, I know that only 7% of the Christians in the United States are evangelical Christians. We are the victims in this secular society that has been pushed upon us by the haters of Christianity.

  33. Bill Simon Says:

    Linda,

    Here’s an article you should consider reading…it is written by an evangelical Christian who is NOT a Republican. I wonder if you will read it and understand it…?

    Jesus Is Not A Republican

  34. Sam Says:

    Linda,
    So political blogs are the place to spread the word?

  35. LINDA Says:

    Dear Sam,

    Well if Bill Simon opens the door with attacking Westmoreland for not knowing the Ten Commandments then he has made his blog a place for a Christian to spread the word and show another view point. Check out my comments in the Gay Marriage Amendment area, if you want to expand your knowledge.

  36. LINDA Says:

    Dear Bill Simon,

    Jesus is not a politician period. But to the Democrats that think that Christianity is protected in the Democrat party, they are brain-washed into that state of mind. At least 90% of the people in the United States do not have a clue as to is behind the attacks on Christianity.

  37. Bill Simon Says:

    Linda,

    I was attacking Westmoreland for demonstrating that the posting of the Ten Commandments (OR, any relgious text) does NOTHING if it is posted on a wall and PEOPLE DON’T READ IT.

    Like, Westmoreland, for instance. Only people who bother to read them and memorize them will understand them well enough to FOLLOW them.

    You and Westmoreland (and a lot of other holier-than-thou folks) worship POWER…which is a violation of the #1 Commandment. You want POWER over other people’s lives.

    You cannot write a comment without proslytizing your religious beliefs on someone else. Why? Because, to you, that is your way of imposing POWER on other people’s lives.

    Based on the things I’ve read of Jesus, he didn’t believe in exerting POWER over the lives of others. You do, you practice it every day, and you are in violation of the very Commandments you seek to have other people follow.

    You want people to hear your message of Christianity? Lead by example, Linda. Start leading by example.

  38. LINDA Says:

    I do not worship POWER, Bill. I realize that no other person is without sin other than Jesus Christ. What are you spreading on your blog, Bill other than your desire to have power over how people vote or how they think about this candidate or that candidate. You know the first person I ever voted for President was Jimmy Carter! And you can’t get any more liberal than that. I seem to remember that the liberal press destroyed President Carter. Why do you think that may be, Bill? Could it be that he was a Southern Baptist? So you need to get off your high horse of hiding behind being a political commentator, as your mission seems to be to ridicule any Christian that makes a mistake in the public arena. When I see you calling a Jew out for wrongdoing and identifying them as a Jew, then and only then will I change my opinion.

  39. Bill Simon Says:

    Hm. Well, I would call out on the Jews who are supporting Ralph Reed…but, that has been changing as of late. Not all of the ones who jumped onboard initially are still backing him.

    Point out to me any other Jew whom you feel is a hypocrite, Linda. I’d honestly like to know.

    By the way, a “hypocrite” is when one preaches one thing in private, but then acts completely against it in public. Who does that in the Jewish faith, Linda?

  40. LINDA Says:

    I did not know that there was a particular Jewish faith. Some Jews are atheists, some Jews practice Judaism, some Jews have become Catholics and some Jews are protestants. So you tell me just how can there be a Jewish faith? So you tell me the Jews that are hypocrites, as surely you would know some. Most never know who the Jew is in the political arena because that has been carefully concealed by the media.

  41. Bill Simon Says:

    OR, more likely, they do not spend their time proclaiming their faith publicly like so many Christians do as a substitute for having to maintain their actual faith.

  42. LINDA Says:

    Well Bill,

    The Jew is not a faith in and of itself. You ignored my point that there is not a Jewish faith, and Judaism is not even mentioned in the Old Testament. There are many Jews that get their view points from the Talimud, and it is very much hate-filled againt the Gentiles. I cannot stand for all Christians, as I am one person fighting in the wilderness. I am not without sin. I cannot ever say that I have never been a hypocrite. Can you honestly say that you have never been a hypocrite, Bill. You are the one that resorts to calling me an idiot on Peach Pundit. Why are you so hateful to Christians? You are right that a Jew has never knocked on my door and invited me to go to church with them, and Hell would freeze over before they did. It is because the Jew has nothing to offer in the way of salvation for mankind, unless it be a Jew that has followed in what Jesus Christ has commanded.

  43. Sam Says:

    Linda,
    I don’t need you to expand my knowledge.

    Please due us a favour and crawl back under your rock. Just because Bill took a shot at LW, doesn’t mean you can turn this into a convert everyone into a Christian blog. If I was Bill I’d make sure you didn’t post here again.

  44. Bill Simon Says:

    Linda,

    I’m not hateful to “Christians” per se. I am hostile to those of you who seek to impose YOUR uneducated view of the world on me.

    By the way…the comment from you regarding “…the Jew has nothing to offer in the way of salvation for mankind” displays exactly why the ADL exists.

  45. Bill Simon Says:

    Linda,

    What is a “Jew” to you? Is it a race of people?

  46. LINDA Says:

    Well as usual those that slander Christians, do not want to take a dose of their own medicine. It is true that the Jews do not try to converty people to their religion because they are not like Christians in that all Jews do not believe in God. That is what confuses so many people in the United States is that they believe all Jews belong to one faith. Bill Simon ask if Jew is a race of people, and I must answer with what is written here. They are not all of one religion, some are atheists, some are Orthodox Jews, some are Liberal Churched Jews, some practice what is in the Talimud. So Bill, how do you as a Jew define what a Jew is? I am lost for words because I do not know the answer.

  47. LINDA Says:

    Dear Sam,

    That is what all people want to do is to run people out of the debate that take another position. From what I gather there are only liberals reading this blog, so that explains the gang mentality. I bet you would love to see the First Amendment abolished wouldn’t you Sam?

  48. Bill Simon Says:

    Judaism is a faith, practiced by Jews.

    While there are differing degrees of the Judaic faith, anyone who follows Judaism is a Jew.

    Just like anyone who follows some form of Christianity is a Christian.

  49. Bill Simon Says:

    As far as the “salvation” point, Linda, God has a covenant with the Jewish people, in case you lost your Old Testament on the same day you lost your mind.

  50. LINDA Says:

    So are those that are atheists in the Jewish people false Jews?

  51. LINDA Says:

    As far as the “salvation” point, Linda, God has a covenant with the Jewish people, in case you lost your Old Testament on the same day you lost your mind.

    Yes, but Jesus Christ is “I am” and he spoke harshly to the pharisees that were of the Devil. My Old Testament talks about those of Israel that were to be scattered amongst all nations for going against God’s Commandments. The New Testament clarifies the who the chosen are, and the Christians that were once Jews died martyrs for standing up for Christ, all died horrific deaths but one disciple and that disciple went into exile. The Pharasees spit in the face of the Son of God, and this was God’s will because there had to be a chosen group to carry out the crucification of Christ. As I said before Judaism is not even mentioned in the Old Testament, please correct me if I am wrong. In the second coming, the Jews will be given a chance to accept Christ as their savior.

    You see I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Christ is the son of God and I believe wholeheartedly in the Trinity. I only wish that all could know the love of Jesus Christ, and that includes you Bill.

  52. Sam Says:

    Linda,
    I’m all for the first amendment. You have no idea what position I take.

    I actually really enjoy blogs and having conversations on them. The best part is normally people stay on topic. You have done a nice job in this thread of trying to convert everyone.

    May god bless you, and may you head to a blog that is appropriate for your conversion efforts.

  53. Chris Trudeau Says:

    I CAN NOT BELIEVE that I missed this exchange. As I was tearing down those tree-limbs yesterday something was calling to me to check out the Politicalvine.com, I just thought it was Beelzebub getting acquainted because of my lack of recognition of the Sabbath. BTW Bill, I think Linda is right on one point…I think maybe you are a closet liberal. As an aside, that for most of us wordly folks, doesn’t automatically qualify you as GODLESS…

    I love these kinds of debates, I would be interested in Linda’s passages of the bible that prioritizes an un-justified war against a sovereign nation over ensuring that all kids have health care. Tax-cuts for the wealthy as a priority seem to be at odds with teachings from the New Testament (Matthew, 22: 19-21) Finally, for someone so dismissing of the Old Testament, surely Linda can tell us where in the New Testament it says that homosexuality is wrong.

    Now if you take a step away from the bible, and talk about politics, since you yourself said Jesus was not a politician, perhaps you can focus on the stupidity of the issue at hand. If George W. Bush started talking about something he knew nothing about….well…that’s not too far-fetched…

    Let me start again……If Moses had forgotten where the Israelites were being imprisoned for example as he was trying to drum up cash for the trip…perhaps he might have looked like an idiot….I think that’s all the people here are saying…

  54. LINDA Says:

    Dear Chris,

    How about reading the Book of John, and see where Jesus says “I am.” I am is God. Jesus said that he is one with God and thus keeps the commandments of God. Thus, Jesus affirmed everything that was set forth by the laws of God as written in the Old Testament. God commanded that men shoud not lay with other men nor with beasts in the Old Testament, and this did not have to be reaffirmed stated over in the New Testament. For an evangelical Christian, such as myself, there is no other way to Heaven than by accepting the Trinity of God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit.

  55. Bill Simon Says:

    Chris,

    I’m a fiscal Republican, not a religious nutcase Republican. I truly believe in the less government control over people’s lives…unlike ANYONE in the Dem party, or in a current position of power in the GOP right now.

    I believe in the Rule of Law, not the Rule of Religious Fanatics who presume that everything written in a book is exactly the way it happened…even when the book has gone through at LEAST 5 translations to get to this point in time.

    No, Chris, I’m not a liberal. Just a person who doesn’t always buy partisan bullshit.

  56. Albert Says:

    Westmoreland is an idiot and is begging for opposition in the next election. Wonder if he’s got a thing for Sadie?

  57. Bill Simon Says:

    Ick, Albert…

  58. caroline Says:

    Bill,
    There are no Republicans that I know of that believe in less government. Less gov. is the rhetoric but not the actions.

  59. Bill Simon Says:

    Caroline…they are out there…Ron Paul is one (a Texas House member), but they are out there. They just aren’t given the power position to effect the changes.

  60. Chris Trudeau Says:

    Since Linda bit on the bait that was priorities, I think we can move on without her. Bill, I was kidding of course, about you being a liberal, but it’s the “base” of your party that has left you in the dust of their fundamentalist views. They are, as you correctly pointed out governed by the “Rule of Religious Fanatics” to the point that in an election year, they are pandering in Congress with Constitutional Amendments about Gay Marriage and Flag Burning, which they knew would fail, when they could be debating Children’s Safety and implementing the 9/11 Commission recommendations. Its all about priorities.

    I think there are Dems out there that believe in the idea of “less government control over people’s lives”, I am one of them. I have a fundamental issue with warrant-less wiretapping, the government telling me who I can and can’t love (that’s my parents job) and that my wife and I could not make the decision to terminate a pregnancy in the interest of her health if need be. These are issues that I believe the government should not be empowered to make for me, about me.

    Contrary to popular belief I, as a liberal, do not believe that government should be BIGGER, I just think government should be more EFFECTIVE. This does not include making more laws telling me what I can and can’t do, that’s not what liberals are about. We are about using the purchasing power of the federal government in a free-market to do the most good for the masses. I believe there are certain things that the government COULD do better than private industry can. The problem is it takes inspirational leadership to get private industry off of their rear-ends…and now-a-days, we don’t (Republican or Democrat) have any inspirational leaders.

    Note: Only one reference to Dems…as I feel almost as left behind as you REAL Conservatives out there…

  61. caroline Says:

    Bill,
    I thought Ron Paul was a Libertarian. You should check out Russ Feingold. He might be your kind of guy.

    Anyhow, I left the GOP in 1992 because of the fundamentalists. You can either stay and fight or leave. If you stay and fight, you are pretty much going to have to sit home on election day. The only was the GOP is going to get the message is for fundamentalists to lose elections.

  62. ReformGeorgiaNow.org » Blog Archive » Charlie Norwood Demagoguery at its Best Says:

    [...] Further demagoguery is clear with the Representative from the 3rd district, where Lynn Westmoreland seemed to forget the 10 commandments on The Colbert Report, on Comedy Central. [...]

  63. Jace Walden Says:

    Caroline,

    Ron Paul is a Libertarian. However, he runs as a Republican so he can win…If I’m not mistaken, he recieved the nomination from both parties for the upcoming election.

    BTW, I saw and responded to your comments on my blog…I hope you check them out, because I think you have characterized me completely wrong.

  64. GP Says:

    People like Linda are the reason I no longer identify myself with the Republican party. Evangelical Christians have hijacked the party and control the public discourse by focusing on hot button social issues while simultaneously increasing the size of the Federal government. Westmoreland was rightly exposed as the fool that he is on the Colbert Report and has done damage to his cause. Linda’s anti-semetic bigotry along with the Republican’s hatred of homosexuals and thinly veiled racial contempt of Hispanics have convinced me that they aren’t responsible stewards of our government.

  65. Larry Says:

    Bill & Linda have a good thing going here. Both are ardent believers in their own positions. However…

    Bill, there is nothing about the 10 Commandments that is forcing anyone to be “Christian”. There is no Constitutional separation between church and state – with the singular exception that no law may be passed in regard to any religion. (Do your homework before pontificatinbg)

    To say “Evangelical Christians have hijacked the party” is a narrow interpretation of historical events in America. The so-called Values Voter has found his voice. The ACLU, atheists, me-ism crowd has long had a voice that dictates public policy. Seems the folks who are steeped in a world view that religious teachings and social conservatism go hand in hand with public policy have been the outsiders. No more.

    The Rule of Law, not the Rule of Religious Fanatics… please think about how laws are passed and how the process and results foster big government in your face every day. Drop back to a set of basic principles – like laws must have basis in immutable precepts. Otherwise laws are interpreted, twisted and modled to fit the whim of the day. True, politicians pander. But setting the expectation that there is historical and principled foundation to our society also gives people a hammer to use when politicians forget who elected them.

    It is so frustrating to read posts from folks who understand only the last 50 years of American history – our foundations and writings and positions of those (always a minority, mind you) who created the Constitution, Bill of Rights, early charters, etc have escaped your reading list.

  66. Bill Simon Says:

    Larry,

    WHICH “Ten Commandments” do you think should be posted? Are you aware that there are several different versions?

    As an example, the Jewish version of murder is “Thou shalt not murder.”

    The Christian version is “Thou shalt not kill.”

    There is a HUGE difference in terminology between “murder” and “kill.”

    “Kill” merely means to end life…ANY organic life.

    “Murder” is the “unlawful killing of a human being.”

    But, with the proliferation of the King James’ version of the Ten Commandments in American society all these hundreds of years, this is why we have such a problem with people mistakenly confusing the definition of “killing a cow” with “murdering a cow.”

    If you think the Ten Commandments will help society, agree to put in place THE Ten Commandments you Christians reject as too harsh to follow…that is, the Jewish/Hebrew version of the Commandments.

    Otherwise, by placing the Protestant version on public buildings, you ARE, by its very act, pushing a Protestant form of Christianity onto a society comprised of many different religions.

  67. Larry Says:

    Bill, I love circular arguments but this one is growing old.

    Leaving the study or science of meaning in language aside momentarily, ponder this. Name for me a major world religion that does not, in some form or other, ascribe to the doctrine, or principles held as being true as expressed in the Biblical Commandments?

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

  68. Bill Simon Says:

    Since the differences between the various religions is, to you, a matter of mere “semantics,” I guess you won’t mind the posting of the Koran’s version of the Commandments, will you?

  69. Larry Says:

    Bill, In response to your “kill vs murder” comment I have provided a premise. I am not obliged to find you an understanding. Thus endeth the lesson.

  70. K.Rad Says:

    Lynn Westmoreland is a complete idiot. Ann Coulter is satan.

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