The Cherokee County Brokeback Mountain Party: Chapter Two
by politicalvine
Just wanted to give you folks a little update on what we covered earlier this year on the Brokeback Mountain Republican Party in Cherokee County: Rumors are that one of the key founders of the Brokeback Mountain Party in Georgia, Bart Brannon, has accepted a job with newbie Republican, Ben Elliott.
Elliott has a strong (and very recent) past of involving himself in Democrat races and giving beaucoup dollars to people like Mark Taylor.
Wonder how Bart reconciles this with his feelings toward Mary Wilhite?
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September 20th, 2006 at 1:38 pm
Bart,
After attacking Mary Wilhite for not being a “real Republican” is it true you just went to work for Ben Elliott ?
What does that make you, a Lady of the Evening…
http://www.ledgernews.com/top%20stories.html
September 20th, 2006 at 8:18 pm
Those articles seem to give legitmacy to what Wilhite has been saying about the CCRP.
The article makes Eliot look like someone who is looking to “buy” his way into government. It also makes the CCRP look like Abramoff clones. I guess they just go wherever the money comes from?
September 20th, 2006 at 10:54 pm
If this is true, Bart is the biggest hypocrite in all of politics. One of Bill Campbell’s top dogs is tied to Elliott. I know this kid is burning money to be accepted in Cherokee (good luck with that), but he has nothing to lose but his money. On the other hand, Bart has his reputation to lose and the reputation is - or was - more valuable.
September 21st, 2006 at 4:43 am
The message is clear. If you are interested in positive social change, vote Democrat or Libertarian, depending on your personal beliefs. If you want nothing but political power and ego gratification, the Republican party is for you! They have no conviction or principle beyond self.
Look at how the national establishment supported Chafee over Laffey in the Rhode Island Senate primary. Chafee is more liberal than half the Democrats in the Senate! The sole Republican interest is power.
September 21st, 2006 at 4:48 am
Now do you understand why i am running for House race to bring change to the area. This race is about the chance for the county to open the door and see a good guy can win and let others step up next time. I am a viable candidate who can do great things for the District and do things no one in the past has done and not ignore the needs of the county and district.
September 21st, 2006 at 6:15 am
Chris,
I agree with your post. My only question do you think “Bart has his reputation to lose and the reputation is - or was - more valuable”.
Bart’s reputation is that of a hitman not real friendly to outsiders,unless they have money.
This was in the Ledger.
The Cherokee County Republican Party is stifled by a clique of party officers and members, according to some Republican candidates who say the small group treats them like outsiders.
Among those who claim the organization often fails to foster a welcoming environment for people who are perceived as not part of the alleged tight group are some candidates who ran in the July 18 partisan primary – both successful and defeated.
Despite its status as the dominant political party in the county, the critics say the Cherokee GOP leadership, with the exception of Chairman Pete Castello, appears unfriendly to candidates who are deemed as not aligned with them but insist they are loyal Republicans blocked by its alleged clique.
County Commissioner Harry Johnston, who defeated challenger Sharon Statham by a 2-to-1 margin in the primary, said there are thousands of county residents who supported candidates who don’t find a welcome into the local party.
“(The party insiders) tend to exclude people who aren’t their particular allies,” Johnston said, adding recent election returns indicate those left out are the majority of the county residents.
Johnston and the other candidates who say a clique exists declined to name the members of the group.
“I think there is a small faction that tends to make new members uncomfortable,” said Johnston, who received 6,104 votes in the primary and is unopposed in the Nov. 7 general election.
[…]
Mary Wilhite, who lost the State House District 22 primary runoff to Sean Jerguson, said party insiders didn’t treat her fairly during her candidacy.
Wilhite said she hasn’t felt welcomed by the local Republican Party.
[…]
Wilhite, who was arrested under a warrant taken by Jerguson supporter Lee Martin for misdemeanor disorderly conduct following a roadside dispute the day before the Aug. 8 runoff, said she will continue attending Cherokee County Republican Party meetings.
[…]
Towne Lake resident Gina Carr, who lost her 2002 Republican bid for the House District to Rep. Charlice Byrd, R-Woodstock, and failed to collect enough signatures to challenge Byrd’s re-election bid as an independent candidate, said several citizens have told her they don’t feel comfortable at local GOP meetings… “They don’t foster an environment of participation outside their group.”
September 21st, 2006 at 7:39 am
Oh this is too much. Something tells me Bart won’t be posting here anymore. I love it.
What is going to happen here is they (Brokeback Bart and Company) are going to take that Benni for every cent they can get out of him. Benni is being accepted because Cherokee GOP thinks he is willing to play ball their way. And they knew Mary would not. However, I don’t think Brokeback Bart will support Benni over Karen Mahurin though.
Elliott has given thousands of dollars to Dems very recently, but is now accepted by the GOP. But Mary Wilhite was not. I wonder what Conrad Quagliaroni has to say about this???
This is good entertainment!
September 21st, 2006 at 7:50 am
Maybe just maybe when John takes the artcile off his wall you and everyone steps back for a minute you will come to the conclusion that this is a job. Not a political appointment, not a campaign a job. John I am sure that none of your former jobs had political tendencies different than yours did they? And Bill the only reason you have this business with your “partner” is because you can’t see the forrest for the trees. This is a job, try it some time and you might find it liberating.
And as for the thought that Bart won’t be posting any longer. I would suggest you wait and see. My guess he will be posting and you all might find it a little uncomfortable. But that is just my guess.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:13 am
Robert,
Please get your “Bills” straight. I am “Bill Simon” and then there’s the other “Bill.”
THAT being said, your statement that “this is a job” and therefore hypocrisy doesn’t exist, why then do you restrict yourself to only Republicans? If it is truly a “job” that you do, then you should treat it as a “job” and work for all sides, regardless of political bent.
I’m not sure what you are talking about with regards to the forest, Robert. I have a political consulting business all on my own with no “partner,” and then I have a marketing business with a partner who was in this marketing business for 30 years.
By the way, the beef between you and I really only comes down to money: you have a history of beating me out of money, and I wasn’t going to give you the chance this last time to do so. That doesn’t make what you do just “a job;” it makes what you do to be in the sleaziest, most crooked manner you can do it.
By Ben’s choice of you and Bart as his “mentors” in his quest for Republican acceptance, he is either just as sleazy as you, or completely naive.
Oh…I DO hope you will caution Ben to stay away from browbeating 12-year-old boys…in his case, it might not play too well on the electorate.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:57 am
The issue as I see it is simple. Not everyone agreed with party leaders like Jeff Duncan, Linda Parker, Pete….., but they never used the party to line their pockets with money.
I realize both parties do it all the time, but that does not make it right.
And for Bart to go after Ralph Reed,Mary Wilhite,Harry Johnston,Bill Stephens…… while the VC of the Cherokee Republican party questioning all of them on their loyality to the party.While cutting a deal with Ben Elliot who was giving money to Democrats in this election cycle is wrong.
The issue is not about Ben Elliot to me. He may have the best interest of the community, I have no idea. The issue is how can anyone trust what Bart has to say if it is just about the money.And why is he still on the local party board? I guess ethics do not matter.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:05 pm
You say it’s just a job. Well, in politics, that job includes your reputation. In fact, it’s 90% about spin and 10% about real issues. Political consultants know this more than anyone.
As for Bart’s reputation, I think he had a good one. Sure I didn’t agree with him much, but his message was always consistent. You knew where he stood on things. That is why this news is so surprising.
And Ben just isn’t a “neo-lib” as Bart and Robert like to say. This guy was a full-on Democrat just a few months ago. It’s just too hypocritical. I hope Bart is getting paid a lot for this gig because it’s probably his last in Cherokee.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:00 pm
Chris,
I hear your point.
“It’s just too hypocritical”. “I hope Bart is getting paid a lot for this gig because it’s probably his last in Cherokee”.
Bart is smart and seems to land on his feet. I just hope and pray he learns from this and stops the hate campaigns against others.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:41 pm
I can respect opposing views, but I can’t respect outright hypocrites.
No amount of money is worth pissing in your own drinking water.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:05 pm
Bart might post again here. But only if it is like the strange post that RTrim offered up.
What the hell was he trying to say?
Still say that Bart won’t say much about the Ben Elliott arrival.
This is great!
September 22nd, 2006 at 8:25 am
Konop, you of all people should avoid dialogue about hypocrisy, political allegiance and prostitution. I know it is hard, but try to look in the mirror if you seek to find the epitome of those descriptive words.
Ben Elliott is creating jobs in Cherokee County, 60+ to date. He is a young entrepreneur who also seeks to give back to his community (ask Woodstock police about a $8000 drug dog they accepted from Ben last week). I am thrilled to be given an opportunity to be part of one of the ventures Ben is pursuing.
Konop when you or Mary create jobs in Cherokee County (in Mary’s case, new deputies to watch her campaign antics does not count), then we can talk. Until then, go back to preparing for your Saturday radio show that could be done over a conference call considering how many listeners you will likely attract. Maybe you can have Mary on the first show to let both listeners (your wife if you can pry her away from spending money on your credit cards and Marvin) hear all about the diabolical Republicans in Cherokee County that intentionally avoid opening doors for Christmas present carrying women…that’ll get you on the charts!
September 22nd, 2006 at 8:55 am
Folks,
This is off topic, but I wanted to ask you guys what the latest on the civil suit against Ralph since you last posting several days ago. What do you hear?
Also, what’s the latest on Skandalakis? I miss alot since being stationed overseas.
Thanks!
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:14 am
Bart,
Puh-leeze. Mr. Elliott has quite the reputation in Dem circles of throwing weight and money around, and now he’s decided to go for a GOP slot.
“Created 60 jobs”? Really? From the story I read in the Ledger, he “bought” restaurants already in existence. How does buying an existing restaurant create jobs?
He has created a job for you, Kelly Campbell, Robert Trim, Bill Dewrell, and a few of your other groupies.
His “entreupreneurship” caused him to file Chapter 7 bankruptcy a few years ago and now he all of a sudden has cash on hand to buy-up Cherokee County? It smells like a cash laundering operation to me.
But, that’s a business too, and one that I’m sure a guy like you and Robert know all too well how to run.
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:16 am
David,
Nothing new on the suit against Ralph. He has been served the subpoena, but no news after that.
On Skandalakis, he is out of jail and trying to make a living and a new life. I think he’d just like to be left alone.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:14 am
Bart,
The truth is I did create jobs. The company I took over had around 10 employees, and when I left we had around 200 not including contractors. About 30 % to 40 % of employees live in Cherokee county. Many became first time home owners.
The comments about my wife demonstrate why you are not fit to be on the Cherokee Republican party board ! I think Ben Elliot should worry about you bashing stay at home moms. I do not think this would be good for his business and political future for him. But Hey, You are the guy in control of communication for him from what I hear?
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:32 pm
You made the comment about your wife (debate at the Justice Center– you remember, when Price exposed your lies about him to the public). I just repeat it because as you imply “bashing stay at home moms” is not very nice…especially if the stay at home mom is your wife. Did you ever apologize to her for dragging her into the campaign even though she wasn’t there to defend herself?
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:17 pm
Bart,
You must of been at a different debate. You need some help. I pray you get it.
September 22nd, 2006 at 7:33 pm
I love this blog ! ! ! A gauntlet is thrown. Cherokee Bart receives a rather substantial challenge to his integrity (based on accusations of political hypocrisy and loyalty-for-sale).
Will he or won’t he respond? We can only wait. And then finally, finally, we get it:
Bart insults Konop’s wife ! !
Freakin’ beautiful ! ! (At least we know it’s actually Bart and not somebody using his name.)
I’m fired-up for round #2 where Bart shares his thoughts on Konop’s mother’s sex life.
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:30 pm
John,
I have done my best to stay out of this mess but for Bart to go after you and your wife that was over the top. I hope this one issue haunts the party for a long time and they keep stumbling but for him to insult your wife and you that was over the top.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:34 pm
Kevin…you should have stayed out because entering the debate only exposed you yet again as a very naive newcomer to politics. Being in pest control, one would expect you to recognize a pest, i.e. Konop.
Brief history lesson before you swallow your foot…Konop at CCRP debate with Tom Price responding to a question about a contribution to an Ohio Congresswoman blamed it on his wife…the shame of it all. Paraphrasing he said something like, ‘my wife used my personal credit card, I didn’t contribute myself.’ Look it up for yourself, contribution from John Konop, Businessman to Marcy Kaptur, liberal Ohio congresswoman who contributed heavily to Cynthia McKinney, John Barrow and other D candidates. I don’t blame Konop for being ashamed, but what kind of husband throws his wife under the bus hoping to win an election?
It was a joke Kevin, tounge in cheek, satirical rhetoric (in BS terms) based on a comment made by Dana’s power hungry husband. I bet Konop had some ’splainin to do when she found out.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:44 pm
Kevin,
Thank you, that was nice of you to say something.
September 23rd, 2006 at 3:20 pm
John,
The one thing I have is pride for the single and stay at home mom. They are the back bone and strength which some do not see or dismiss as bon bon moms or soccer moms. They allow a son or daughter to grow up where a parent can teach them right and wrong not left at home with the PS2 and IPODS. So for a person let alone a guy talk smack regarding that issue is one sad little man.
September 23rd, 2006 at 6:31 pm
Kevin,
You are right. I give my wife much of the credit for both of my kids. I am very proud of both of them!
September 23rd, 2006 at 7:55 pm
The fact that your son had to endure the crap from the campaign is a sad statement on the other side. It is one thing to go after a candidate since they are open season but to go after a kid who from how I read was passing out a flyer. Give me a break unless I heard the facts incorrect. Now they have a guy who comes over from the Democrats and spreads money and offers to run for office. I wonder how Karen feels about that knowing she had some support now they follow some guy who has a couple of dollars. The funny thing is I wanted to donate the $600 from the bike race to the police dog for a bullet proof vest but it was a conflict. He buys a dog and announces he wants to run against Karen in the same article. John you wonder why I am doing what I am doing, I hope you hold some respect for me after Nov 7th. John the only thing i can say is do under estimate me since I have a D next to my name maybe its time for a some change.
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:11 pm
Hypocrisy you say well lets see who can answer this question
What blow hard marketing/political consultant claims to not sell himself and is so holy and clean he rants and has tantrums at anyone who dare question him.
Here is a clue:
Noel, John
(State Representative 44)
00000-0000 02/01/2004
$792.07 As Originally Filed
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:18 pm
Now Bill you have no consulting business and you know it. You used to do research but everyone you have worked for has either A)lost B) not rehired you for a future election. So sour grapes is probably the best way to describe your actions.
As for you being beat out of money, your service sucks, I never know if your product will be delivered and the fact is you are a penny broker and I have learned that you just don’t know how to get the job done.
If you want to continue down this personal path please do. But unless you plan to back up your accusations and are prepared for the fight then lets go.
Otherwise just because you don’t understand business or negotiating and are mad that I would shop your prices and hold some moneys back until delivery (standard in most cases especially when prior jobs were FUBAR)
Now go and get your date from the closet and blow her up and pretend
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:24 pm
RTrim is throwing stones. Hilarious.
And Bart’s post was a classic, too.
Someone told me that the Ledger article was going to mention something about Benni’s sexual persuasion.
But it doesn’t matter if he is gay or an ax murderer to these guys. He has money and he wants to play ball their way. That’s good enough! He’s in!
What a shame that such a fine place as Cherokee County has been taken over by these jack-asses. Chip Rogers. Bart Brannon. Robert Trim. Patty Baker. Mike Byrd. (Oh, I’m sorry, he got his ass kicked in the primary.) Charlice Byrd. Donnie Henriques. Derek Good. Karen Mahurin.
My guess is that none of these people are from Cherokee. Bunch of carpetbaggers have taken over. Saddest of all is that Sheriff Roger Garrison, one of Cherokee’s own, from the great town of Ball Ground, is one of “them.” It is absolutely tragic.
I’m glad I’m outta there.
I’m hopeful that good people such as Mary Wilhite and others can get these cretins out of power.
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:32 pm
Bill,
Glad you are out of here too. I would agree with most of the folks you would call a jack ass. Not sure who you are or your beef but ok.
Since I didn’t start this fight but responded that makes me a bad guy.
But I guess you need to be anonymous for some reason. What are you hiding from?
And before you assail my reputation, which is still intact thank you, know what you are talking about. If you want to know what roll I play if any with a candidate then ask but if you are just going to guess then you are a coward with a computer. No better then the punks at the ledger who hide behind there paper.
Hey wait is this really Tom Brooks? If it is shouldn’t you be working your second job to pay off the rent you didn’t pay for over 3 years
September 23rd, 2006 at 11:35 pm
Y’all migrate here from West Virginia? Been nippin on the bottle a little too much lately?
September 24th, 2006 at 6:48 am
RTrim,Bart
Is there any line you and Bart will not cross with nasty comments about people(wife,kids,lies….)? Oh I forgot you guys think this is part of your job. As Bart said this is a “contact sport” for you guys.
September 24th, 2006 at 7:15 am
John,
Tell me the lie? And don’t whine about your kid or wife when you used them as props for your campaign. If you want to make sure they aren’t drug throught the campaing then don’t insert them.
Oh yeah one other question john these jobs you refer to that you created aren’t they in India?
September 24th, 2006 at 7:17 am
Hey John do you want another clue on who the hypocrit consultant is?
Well here it is
Cox, Cathy
(Governor of Georgia)
1260 Ronnie Dr
Marietta, GA 30062 03/04/2005
Speciality Advertising Company
$743.75 As Originally Filed Co
(found on page 348 or so on the disclosure)
Come kids there is a prize for the one who gets it first
September 24th, 2006 at 7:34 am
RTrim,
Why not answer the question. What is the line for you Robert, if any going after people? From your last post, it looks like you enjoy it. Would you want your kids to do this for a living?
September 24th, 2006 at 8:04 am
Yep I would.
The fact is John you won’t take responsiblity for your own actions and want to blame everyone else. You are also one of those parents who believes that “their” child couldn’t have done anything wrong.
John the fact is that you lost it in Marietta at the county building and Ray McBerry and the Reed volunteers know it and saw it. You confronted me with your tough guy act figuring I would let you get away with it. I didn’t and your son saw you as the punk that you are. His behavior the next time I saw him was the exact same as yours was that night. Apple didn’t fall from the tree John.
Take responsiblity for the your poor behavior, stop blaming others and while your at it stop shifting the argument to avoid the topic.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:33 am
Robert,
The Price people came to me at the event you went after my kid, and said they had nothing to do with it. That is how I found out you attacked my kid.In fact the 6th district Chairmens wife is who came to me first.
The only reason I did not file charges against you is I did not want my kid in a court to deal with you and your lawyer.
The report is on file at the Cobb police department. I also reported your behavior to the Cherokee police department.
If you have a problem with the truth , take me to court.I will have no problem , because when you file your civil action, that information could turn to criminal action against you.
“The Truth Will Set You Free “
September 24th, 2006 at 8:36 am
again john stop changing the subject and take responsiblity for your actions and then maybe your son will learn right from wrong.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:39 am
Robert,
Since you were working for John Wiles at the time I will follow up with a letter to him to find out if he supports your behavior.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:42 am
Whatever makes you feel better John. Do you want my mom’s phone number too?
Hey and John since you are telling the story as told to you by someone who wasn’t at the table why not put up what Jeff Fuller told you when you called him. He was sitting next to me, or is that kind of first hand truth inconvenient to you?
September 24th, 2006 at 8:44 am
On second thought since you are such a narcicist and get be bothered to take responsiblity for your behavior I will put up here what you were told.
Your son came up and was smug and rude and there was no confrontation between he and I according to what Jeff told you. In fact Jeff went on to tell you that I was polite to your son but hey facts should never get in the way or your own little dillusion.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:56 am
Jeff,
No one came up to me and had anything nice to say about you. In fact the Price people were in shock from what they told me.In fact the Price people issued an apology to me via 6th district Chairmans wife. This is why I did say anything about this via Tom Price.
You did answer my question about the line you would cross.I guess you and Bart “contact sport” policy goes for kids also.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:06 am
Not sure who Jeff is that you refer to but maybe you are starting to remember the truth you heard from Jeff. Who ever the 6th district chair is I will ask his wife, who was not at the table when your smug ill mannered and poorly behaved son arrived.
So John keep the fairy tale alive.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:18 am
Oh yeah and just for the record, I have never seen Bill Simon with a woman but he refers to Dick Hall,Bart Brannon and I under a innuendo of being gay.
Interesting.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:46 am
Will you leave John’s kid out of this and stick the facts of today not something that happened over the summer. If I was new to the party, which I am not I would think from reading this you attack kids and arrest candidates who lose elections.
I know elections are suppose to be rough and tough but dang let it go with John’s kid.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:52 am
Konop passes the buck to his wife when confronted with a campaign contribution to a dem. See contribution page linked here– http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?24991391786 — note it does show John Konop, Employer (CAN) and Occupation (CDO), not Dana Konop, stay at home mom, housewife using husband’s credit card. If Dana made the contribution Konop, then it would say Dana Konop even if she used your credit card (btw, why does Dana list her name on every other dem contribution, just not this one…). The truth will set you free Konop!
You ought to be ashamed of hiding behind your wife’s skirt, admit you made the donation, no biggie. Those in attendance at the debate definitely expressed themselves when you blamed Dana…maybe you didn’t notice because you were in the midst of trying to come up with an excuse for past dem support.
Lastly if a candidate decides to put their children in a political race while lying extensively about their opponent, candidate should expect the children to overhear comments. The blame rests with you Konop no matter how much you try to pass the buck by distorting the truth. Especially when you become confrontational as happened with Robert and others who dared to disagree with your doom and gloom projections. Mirrors are fairly inexpensive Konop, suggest you look for the culprit in all these paranoid rants by standing in front of one soon. Remember the truth will set you free Konop.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:03 am
Kevin maybe you should try and read this again. John once again has used his son and family as a prop to distract the conversation.
I did not and have not brought him into this conversation. I have responded to John and his accusations, Period. If he and you don’t want his son or family involved then tell JOhn you are tired of him using his family as a prop and to stop acting like a victim every time he throws them back into the middle of the pile.
Kevin I really think you have me confused with John. He is the one whining to anyone who will listen. And unfortunately the police have to take incident reports from any kook who wants to file one, just like the courts have to allow a law suit to be filed.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:47 am
Now I understand why Bart is the Communications Director for the Cherokee Republican Party. When there’s PR a crisis, when his credibility hits a big iceberg, he (and surrogate RTrim) know just what to do:
ATTACK WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST ! !
A less experienced Communications Director might offer a rational and truthful explanation/defense to the challenge, or choose not to respond at all. But not BaRTrim: he marshals all his communications savvy and cuts right to the heart of the problem: KONOP’S WIFE ! !
Yet, inexplicably, that tactic isn’t playing very well with the crowd. No problem, thinks BaRTrim, we’ll cut to the heart-of-the-heart of the problem: KONOP’S SON ! !
I can guess what’s coming next, and all I can say is, if Konop has a house pet, it should probably lawyer-up.
All this is great fun to read, but seriously, what is the Cherokee County Republican Party thinking by keeping BaRTrim as its front men? This is shameful.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:55 am
Markedcoward,
I am not an officer or front man for the party.
Again I suggest you like Kevin need to read hos John’s son got dragged into this argument.
Show me the attack Markedcoward. Where did I attack, show me where I started this little fight and show me how I brought Konop’s family into the argument.
You can’t and you will hide behind your cowardly screen name.
September 24th, 2006 at 11:28 am
RTrim: “Show me the attack”
Bart Brannon: “your (Konop’s) wife if you can pry her away from spending money on your credit cards”
RTrim: “your son saw you as the punk that you are, the apple didn’t fall from the tree John”
RTrim: “Your son came up and was smug and rude”
RTrim: “when your smug ill mannered and poorly behaved son arrived”
September 24th, 2006 at 11:32 am
MarkedCoward
Again show me how I started this. Those are responses to John’s attack and the insertions of a fairy tale he depicts as truth.
If you don’t like the facts of the situation then don’t bring the situation up. You can’t have it both ways. Either you fault John for inserting his family into the debate, for the record I am not Bart and did not write anything under his name, or you have to accept the fact that he has chosen to use them in his (false) argument. And as such HE, John has made them part of this thread.
September 24th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
RTrim, are you and Bart so far gone that you don’t know the difference between debate and personal attack anymore? Or do you just not care?
By the way, most people abandon the “he started it” argument by the 6th grade. Konop didn’t attack spouses and children—you guys did.
It’s time for you and Bart to go into “time out” so you can think about what you’ve done.
September 24th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
Robert,
Apparently, you have a very short recollection on bringing kids into a political race.
Recall, if you will, YOUR acts as a jackass against Konop’s kid at the Cobb July 4th GOP event:
http://politicalvine.com/politicalrumors/rumors/robert-trim-kids-dont-grow-up-to-be-anything-like-him/
September 24th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Oh yeah, Robert. You’re right. I don’t have any ex-wives I’m associated with, whether mine or someone else’s. That certainly makes you an accomplished and REAL man, doesn’t it?
September 24th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
Bill (never been with a woman)Simon,
I remember well and will tell you the same thing I told John. Tell the entire story from someone who was there not hear say from some woman who was not there. You both know the truth but it is inconvenient.
And as far as the women thing, whatever your mad cause they all ignored you or ran from you when you came in the door. Don’t get your panties is a wad about you are the one making the implications with your too cute by half headline.
But hey I guess you gotta be in the game to understand how it works. Your view from the sideline, how is it.
And Bill one last question, do you know who the consultant and hypocrit described above is?
Think hard
September 24th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
Bill you seem so bitter. Is the latex date not giving you the relief anymore? Or has she run from you too?
September 24th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
Bart,
I am not as naive as you or one might think and yes I have seen the debate back and forth but the debate on policy and numbers were more interesting. Can anyone here tell me the latest CPI,PPI, Leading Indicating Numbers, value of the American dollar, the wholesale price of unleaded gas or the dollar amount of crude and explain how the unemployment number goes up and down. I know I can tell you those figures, just wondering how naive people are to those. My dealings with Cherokee go back to Linda Parker and my politics go back to pre 2000 getting people elected personally so Bart before calling a spade a spade never underestimate a pest control guy just look at my old idol who is stepping down this year. Oh before we depart the subject give me the names of the last 10 compaines that have left the state. Kevin knows the name do you.
September 24th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Bart and RTrim,
You guys are sick and need help. I plan to write a letter to Ben Eliot,Good and Wiles about your hateful comments. The voters of Cobb and Cherokee should understond if they support your hate group. I also will write another letter to the party (CCRP) to find if they support your hate group.
I will also send your comments to the Cherokee and Cobb police department. Since both of you have an arrest record with a plea deal for nasty behavior, it is important for the commmunity saftey that both police departments are aware of your latest hate attacks.
The reason I am doing this is in case you guys attack my kid or other kids in the future.
I would hope Ben Eliot, Wiles , Good and the CCRP are not part of or supportive of your hate group.
September 24th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
John,
Don’t waste you time writing letters to Good, Elliott or Wiles…they know full well all about Trim and Brannon and would only laugh at your letter.
You had your chance right after the 4th of July to do something meaningful on the matter, but you let the opportunity slip away.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
Robert,
I’m not bitter about anything. I just point out the truth about you and you have no other counter except to act like a 14-year-old girly-man and talk about someone’s sex life as an attempt to divert attention away from the fact that you a) don’t pay your consulting bills, and b) get a hard-on from accosting 12-year-old boys.
Robert…are you taking estrogen supplements? Because you sound and write like someone who gets awfully emotional about little shit.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
ok fine if no one wants to guess here it is drum roll please
The hypocrit is none other than
Bill Simon
see below
Cox, Cathy
(Governor of Georgia)
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Marietta, GA 30062 03/04/2005
Speciality Advertising Company
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Noel, John
(State Representative 44)
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$792.07 As Originally Filed
Noel, John
(State Representative 44)
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$101.34 As Originally Filed
September 24th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Oh yeah and John
Bill is right they would laugh because they know you are crazy. They also know the truth because unlike you the listened to people who were there.
And John you can keep crying about your son as a victim and still you haven’t dealt with anything anyone said or asked of you.
You should really let the boogey man argument go
September 24th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
Robert,
Apparently you are getting your consultants mixed-up.
I didn’t criticize Mary Wilhite because she used to be a Democrat…that was YOUR argument against her.
You and BART are the two fuckheads who complain about Republicans who were once a Democrat all through one primary cycle, and then turnaround and start working for someone who was JUST a Democrat as of March 1 of this year. Elliott is trying to get in the GOP doorway via the back-door with a bunch of cash to buy your souls. Granted, there isn’t much value in your souls anyway, but that’s beside the point.
You are the hypocrite when you strenuously claim that one candidate is no good due to who she was once affiliated with (e.g., Bill Campbell), and then you go to work for someone who is a more recent Democrat and has given beaucoup bucks to Dem candidates (one of whom is Mark Taylor, a candidate for Governor this year) all throughout their time in Georgia politics.
Robert, you are a TOTAL dumbass…and, a dishonest businessman besides that. You and “Back-Door Ben” should make a fine business team…until the GBI knocks on your door to check your washing machine for $100 bills you keep laundering.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
John,
I agree with Bill just let the letter go and know you can do more by getting others involved come Nov and start gearing up for 08 now. The one thing i learned is the anger in the past can only make one more bitter in the future. Just use what is said for locker room or kitchen talk get some groups together and use the mo from this and run your 08 campaign. You did your part and got involved in the process.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
Oh, and by the way, Robert: I DID ask the people who were there at the Cobb GOP picnic who you told me to go ask. Jeff Fuller wasn’t paying attention to the incident at all.
Fred Allen of the Cobb GOP witnessed YOUR huffing and puffery when John came up to ask you about the incident and you laced into him.
As I said before, it’s really too bad I wasn’t there to witness your assault on Konop’s kid. Because though I would have probably ended-up in the Cobb County jail, you would have ended-up in the Kennestone ICU for about 4 weeks…and, my jail time would have been worth it.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Physical prowess matches your prowess with women Bill. It is the least of my worries.
Hey perhaps I should send a copy of this to the Cobb pollice just in case, like John does.
As usual you John et al want to make this about your fairy tale and not the truth.
You kids have fun.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
Robert,
You are a consummate liar and a sleazy businessman. That combination usually results in more and more legal trouble for your future. And, I can hardly wait for it to happen.
September 24th, 2006 at 6:49 pm
Kevin and Bill,
I am not writing the letter out of anger. As I said , the police need to know for the saftey of our community.
If Wiles, Good , Eliot do laugh and the CCRP party, this is an issue the voters need to know about. I think voters would not support pro child and stay at home mother abuse candidates.
September 24th, 2006 at 7:19 pm
Bart,
By the way, if you use someone credit card over the internet or MOTO you cannot fill out the application unless it matches the name on the card as well as other informatoion. This is called AVS, a system from the credit card industry.
https://www.linkpoint.com/support/lpchelp/avs_codes.htm
My wife was in the crowd when I made the statement. And we did not have a problem, because I respect her right to be a Democrat.
As Far as the money, my wife and I share the income. She has done a great job as a stay at home mom no matter what you and Trim say.If you had kids you would not question the hard work she puts in.
As far as my son. He is a straight A student in the highest group in 7th grade. He won the citizenship award 3 times in two different schools.
His resume is much stonger then you and your buddy Trim who had to plea out of a arrest for nasty behavior.
I do not think anyone would question my son vs. you or Trim when comes to the truth.
September 24th, 2006 at 7:23 pm
On May 31, I attended the GALEO forum at Marietta City Hall (the one where Steve Sinton and John Konop appeared and a Tom Price surrogate lied her butt off). I was offered a piece of Konop’s literature by a young boy, presumably John’s son. I told him politely that I was supporting Sinton, but wished him well.
You see how simple it is to be civilized, even with people with whom you disagree? Why could others not help but be jerks?
Oh, one more thing. I respect Bill Simon’s desire not to directly refute some of the garbage thrown at him in this thread. Allow me to testify here that I have seen Bill with female company.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
John,
That is true voters will not vote for people like that.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:27 pm
Oh, Pete Castello, please do something about this Cherokee GOP. As you told me the advice someone once gave you: “Lead, dammit!”
I don’t know who this Robert Trim is. But his writing on here should be enough to get him out of whatever position he has. And I’m not even going to discuss Brannon.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:31 pm
I am not Tom Brooks BTW. Pathetic that you would reveal that bit of information about him. He is a fine writer. You guys are vicious.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
Bill..Bill…Kevin and Konop…have a good one, this is all BS puerile banter led by the host of this site. New site coming soon….stay tuned.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
Bill S.
You keep saying that about me and my business but you can’t substantiate it. You mouth off but are shallow at the end of the day.
I have had no legal problems except for one. Always paid my bills and gone above and beyond any agreement I have entered into.
In fact I have made sure even you were paid before I was, even after you completely screwed the pooch on the job and didn’t know what to do to recover.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:08 pm
Robert,
You paid me all but $500. Don’t give me this bullshit about paying me “first,” Bitch.
I have the copy of the contract, and I have a record of payments. Anytime you want to meet me in court for proof, you let me know.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:11 pm
Vicious is right. But that’s what happens when pit bulls get backed into a corner. Its nothing but growling and teeth. But in this case, the “pit bulls” backed themselves into the corner by working for Elliott. John is just pointing out the hypocrisy and I’m surprised by it too. More than anything, I’m disappointed by it. Are there any real Republicans out there???
September 24th, 2006 at 10:13 pm
Bart,
Boy, I hope that means you and Trim won’t be visiting this blog anymore with your puerile, 5th-grade bullshit.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:14 pm
I have no idea what you are talking about. If you are owed money then tell me what campaign and I will pay it. And then deal with the campaign.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Chris,
There are, but they don’t waste time playing in the CCRP bull. They lead other, more productive lives.
September 24th, 2006 at 10:20 pm
I don’t think there are any real REPUBLICANS on this board.
Later
September 24th, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Thanks Bill. And I do like this website.
Chris
September 24th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
Are there any Republicans left in Cherokee County? With leadership like these to freaks who in their right mind would want to be affiliated with it.
This is some seriously entertaining stuff.
September 24th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
two I duz no how to spell.
September 25th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Chris,
I was wondering are you the one who said i would go down in defeat. If so after reading the post for the last two weeks has your mind changed. Bubba its ok I forget to hit spell check too.
September 25th, 2006 at 10:01 pm
Kevin, I still think so because Cherokee County is going to vote for the (R). This doesn’t mean the best candidate. A two-party system would be a good thing in Cherokee, because it might make the Republicans act like damn Republicans. Good luck to you.
September 26th, 2006 at 5:15 am
Chris,
I hope some Republicans still like me since my goal was to give the county a two party system and atleast I have kept my conserative head.
September 26th, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Kevin,
This is what conservatives do:
the Senate is preparing to bust fiscal year (FY) 2007 discretionary spending caps by at least $32 billion to:
1. Reimburse the Pentagon for the $9 billion raided from its budget earlier this year and given to domestic programs, as well as fund additional defense and border security programs ($26.8 billion in total);
2. Fund another massive farm subsidy bailout despite high subsidy levels and a booming farm economy ($4.2 billion); and
3. Reimburse NASA for funds that lawmakers had diverted into parochial pork projects ($1.0 billion).
And in addition, lawmakers have promised $2 billion to $3 billion more for the labor, health, and education programs.
So, I doubt you are a conservative. What do you think?
September 26th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
Kevin,
caroline is tough !! Better have your facts together or she will smoke you !!
September 26th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Caroline,
From what you typed that’s a negative on being a conservative. I wish so many politicians did not screw with the system and say one thing to get elected and act the other. One could say the same for me but I may be the first person to run who has not accepted money from a group to beholden myself to. My list of donations for this upcoming report should take two seconds to file. John yes she is tough and she would keep a politician honest or if not then I would say accountable for the actions to which they take. I do know one thing when I lobbied for the chrons bill and it was passed and then chopped in half the next week, that is when I learned no person has control on what gets done.
September 26th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
Kevin,
Here’s the deal: political definitions are constantly evolving. The only thing that really makes someone a “conservative” is calling themselves one. As far as I know, everyone of these politicians is calling themselves “conservative” so “conservative” is now defined by the actions of a “conservative” president and “conservative” house and senate.
I would call myself a moderate or a common sense democrat or somesuch not a conservative. The word “conservative” has been corrupted by the current gang.
Hey, just my two cents and that’s probably about all that advice is worth! LOL!
September 26th, 2006 at 8:24 pm
Caroline,
I have been calling myself a southern Democrat but the sad thing i really hate the label thing. I would just like to think I have some common sense and willing to do the right thing based on what needs to be done. Like you said the word conservative has lost its meaning, I just want to what do what is fair and bring a two party system to the county and end the absolute power trip which has cost the county over the past couple of years. John did the right thing he stepped up and did the challenge and unlike some who were critical of John I admire the man it took courage to step up and defend something he believed in and looks like he is still fighting the good fight. To launch verbal attacks on ones character shows lack of some and like John I will keep my head up wave at people, shake hands, not kiss babies but hug grandmas. So John for whats it is worth I will pick up your fight for immigration reform, Caroline to bring fiscal spending under control and to others who have kids hopefully a better future.
September 26th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
Bart, if you will let people post freely — as we get to do here — I promise to be a regular on your website. I can’t wait!
Unfortunately, you will rely on bannings and deletions of posts in order to make your website friendly toward the CCGOP thugs.
September 29th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
John, good to meet you today. Thank you for your good wishes. But things don’t look good on this end.
Anyhow, I will be supporting you as best I can in two years.
September 30th, 2006 at 5:56 am
Bill,
I am sure you will do great in your new business !!!!
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 am
John, thank you — but I won’t be doing well in this new business, I don’t think.
But I hopefully will in another. Just not sure what business!
Anyhow, it was nice to meet you for the third time. I believe that one of these days — sooner than later — you will be representing the people of Georgia (and all of your supporters across the United States, including those in the great state of Tennessee) in the Congress. I will be supporting you as best I can.
October 2nd, 2006 at 5:02 pm
Bill,
Call me anytime , and I wish you and your wife the best.
January 13th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Please know there is a big group of us, sitting back and laughing. Mostly at the expense of the now (in)famous Ben Elliott. Can’t wait till it hits the fan. I think it is safe to assume he will not be able to run for any office or ever work in Georgia again.
You could just say someone employed a government agency with an acronym of 3 letters mentioned it. Looking forward to him and his CROOKED employees GOING DOWN!
Also, I didn’t know his MOM owned the restaurants in Towne Lake. Wonder why that is?