Congressman Tom Price Is A LIAR! LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE LIAR!
by Bill Simon
Facts have it that Congressman Tom Price has been caught, not only LYING, but using a “veterans group” to help bolster his lie revealed at tonight’s back-to-back debates in Cobb County. Debates, by the way, that Tom Price was too much of a chickensh*t to even show-up to when the actual debate was scheduled AND his campaign had confirmed the schedule.
Here’s the background story: The League of Women Voters had a debate scheduled for 6:30 PM last night (May 31) for all candidates running in the 6th District.
Price’s campaign office HAD CONFIRMED that he would be there, ready to debate his opponents: John Konop in the Republican primary scheduled on July 18, and Democrat Steve Sinton in the November General Election.
Another debate for 6th District candidates was scheduled for that evening as well, in a candidate forum held by the East Cobb Civic Association (ECCA) at the Mountainview Community Center on Sandy Plains.
The agenda for the ECCA event was as follows: 6:30 PM-7:00 PM was a reception for all candidates, and then the forum began at 7:00 PM. The “reception” was for any candidate in any/all parties running for any position that affected Cobb County. State Rep races, State Senate races, School Board races, Governor, Lt. Governor, Attorney General race, PSC races, Congressional races (both District 6 and District 11), etc., etc.
The agenda for the ECCA forum between the 6th District candidates was scheduled to run from 9:00 PM to 9:30 PM.
So, when the League of Women Voters’ forum started at around 6-6:30 PM, Sinton and Konop were there, but Tom Price was a no-show. However, Debbie DeLong, Price’s Campaign Director, was there as a surrogate for Price.
And what did Debbie tell the gathered throng of about 150 people as to why Price couldn’t attend (after confirming he would attend)? DeLong read a letter from Tom Price. What did the letter say?
The letter referred to Price apologizing for his absence due to the fact that he was attending an event at a veterans’ group across the county [I wasn't there to know the exact name, but the MDJ or AJC should have the name of the veterans' group Price used as his excuse]…and he expressed his deepest apologies to the League for his absence.
BUT, WHERE WAS TOM REALLY? Oh…he was over at the East Cobb Civic Association event, glad-handing anyone who was there, and doing all he can to pray that no one asked him a question about his votes that went against Republican principles.
AND, he was at the East Cobb Association’s event right-up until about 8:30 PM when he ducked-out and left, so as to avoid his 2nd scheduled forum opportunity to face Republican John Konop.
I suspect he had received a cellphone call from Debbie DeLong telling him that Konop was headed over there, and it was time to get the hell out of Dodge, lest Price have to face Konop in a public forum, where people will find out just how much of a fraud he really is.
If having a liar represent you in Congress is your idea of a “good leader,” then you’re an idiot. (State Rep Wendell Willard…are you tuned-in? Or, are you just as oblivious to the abysmal representation Price has given us as you were to your support of whatever backroom deal Speaker Pro Temp Mark Burkhalter had cut with AGL Resources on the pipeline deal? Hm. Well, we’ll cover THAT crap at another time)
Here’s the thing about Tom Price. He isn’t even a “good” liar. A “good liar” is someone who’s slick when he/she lies (See Reed, Ralph). Price is SUCH a stupid liar to lie about something that is SO easy to verify.
And, putting aside the lying, and putting aside the veterans’ group Price used as his excuse for not being at the League’s event (though, I’m certain THAT veterans’ group won’t be putting Price aside in their minds), Price is VERY afraid to debate either Konop (his Republican opponent) or Sinton (his potential Democrat opponent). Why?
Because Price, like so many other members of Congress realize the jig is up as to their performance over the past 2 years.
The people of the 6th District know, like so many other districts across America know, that both the Republican leadership in Congress, as well as the performance of nearly every Republican Member, isn’t worth a bucket of horse manure (whether warm or cold).
AND, every single one of them should be ousted, by Republicans preferably, but if not in primaries, kick all of their asses OUT with a boot the size of Italy.
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June 1st, 2006 at 5:46 am
I was there! the dialog between John Konop and Steve Sinton, was very good and they both have the facts! Sinton needs to study more about the Fair Tax.
This was one of the best Forums I have been to in a very long time. I did feel sorry for Debbie DeLong to have to read the letter from Cong. Price as to his attending a Veterans Group! What a suprise to see him at the 2nd event and he did leave as soon as we all started to arrive from the League of Womens Voters event at City Hall of Marietta.
Tom is really showing his true self!! He is like all the rest forgot who sent him to Cong. and who can get him out! We the People.
June 1st, 2006 at 5:52 am
Gee, a politician lies and you act surprised? He “confirms” an appearance and then fails to show? Next, you’ll be angry at the sun for rising in the east and setting in the west. Price will next (if he thinks about this at all) blame this on a scheduling “mix-up,” so be ready for that.
I’d like to know where Price stands (Konop too) on the Congressional reaction to the FBI raid of Rep. Jefferson’s office. Does he think the FBI violated the separation of powers clause or not? Would Konop allow the FBI to search his office?
June 1st, 2006 at 5:56 am
Tom Price and most of his fellow Republicans are displaying in bold relief the hollowness of the GOP’s claim to be the morally superior party in America. Not only that. They are revealing the extent to which the culture of corruption has seeped into every pore of their being. Why some people are just waking up to this fact defies rational thought. A Party that, once gaining power, instantly throws overboard two of its supposedly most hallowed principles–fiscal responsibility and a smaller federal government–has shown that hypocrisy and lies are the only principles that guide it. Now that the GOP’s adherence to fiscal responsibility has been revealed as a Big Lie, why should the American people believe anything that the Republican Party says about anything?
Tom Price’s microcosmic lie simply mirrors the macrocosmic lies of the Republican Party.
June 1st, 2006 at 7:34 am
Mike,
It’s not the “being shocked” part of the ordeal. It’s the fact that Tom got caught in a very public way. Get it, now?
June 1st, 2006 at 8:31 am
You seem to be charging that Price’s voting record is not what we in East Cobb would want. Can you please list these votes.
I have not been a big fan of Senator Isaacson… but his stance on “Seal the Border first… then talk about the ones who are here” is a good position. It even has the side benefit of encouraging support for sealing the Border among those illegals already here. They get no legal status until the Border is sealed.
June 1st, 2006 at 9:13 am
Looks like some more elite Repub grass roots hypocrisy here. Usually the debate duckers are being counseled that their money and party elites will rule so they don’t need exposure from any ‘uncontrolled’ public events.
Someone please post the veterans event used as I would like to confirm with them and see how they feel as being used as the dodge.
All the work to build a Republican majority and then watching the elites flush it all down the toilet is a huge huge disappointment
Jim Dean
Heritage TV
June 1st, 2006 at 9:28 am
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June 1st, 2006 at 11:40 am
I too was very disappointed that my US Representative refused to show up after it was reported that the event had been scheduled around Price’s calendar.
I was interested in why he thought his vote for the 15,000+ earmarks was honorable, as he has allegedly reported in a previous debate. This is especially important to me as a clear case can be made that the majority of these earmarks, a.k.a., bring home the pork in order to buy a few more votes with MY tax money, are mainly unconstitutional.
The limited enumerated powers that “We the People” vested in Congress through our U.S. Constitution are limited for good reason – to limit the power and potential corruption of the federal government in order to better protect our liberties. The Republicans in Congress were expected to: revere and abide by our Constitution, reduce the size of government, reduce spending in order to reduce taxes, not increase our deficit and debt to all time highs, protect our borders in order to protect our nation, control illegal immigration, protect our good jobs not ship them out to other nations increasing our trade deficit to over $700 billion and increasing at $50 to $100 billion a year, protect marriage, life, language, and our culture, stop judicial activism, etc., etc.
As a longtime Republican activist at many levels I can’t begin to explain my anger, hostility, and disappointment at Republicans in Washington – Shame on you!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pm
I was there too! Sinton and Konop are BOTH much better options than Price. He is obviously dishonest – Chicken Tom.
I considered Sinton the victor, as he spoke with reason and calm, and had depth of the issues.
I actually felt bad for Price’s campaign director, when he forced her to stand up and lie to the group. The appropriate clucking for the chicken had her upset. She should be angry with her boss. Tom’s no show is absolutely what is wrong with Washington – OUT OF REACH AND OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE DISTRICT!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pm
TOM PRICE WAS THE B-I-G LOSER LAST NIGHT. WHO WOULD BE SO STUPID TO LIE ABOUT HIS LOCATION, HIDE BEHIND VETERANS, AND SHOW UP TODAY IN THE MARIETTA DAILY JOURNAL SHAKING HANDS AT THE EACT COBB REPUBLICAN LOVE FEST, DURING THE SAME AS THE DEBATE?
APPARENTLY – MR. PRICE! SEEING PRICE’S NAME PLATE WITH AN EMPTY CHAIR AT A DEBATE WHERE HE PERSONALLY CHOSE THE DATE SPEAKES VOLUMES!
How much more do these millionaire Republicans think they can get away with???? This is the same guy who has been running his campaign with MY tax payer dollars! He took money from DeLay, and his first visit after he was elected was to Delay! What a crook!
June 1st, 2006 at 4:31 pm
I actually voted for Tom in the last election, volunteered for him, and talked him up to my friends.
I went to the debate because as a Republican, I wanted to determine if I could vote for Konop. An AMAZING thing happened – I decided to vote for SINTON. He is a conservative Democrat who assured me he would represent me – and not big money corporations. SINTON GOT MY VOTE!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:41 pm
Jim,
From what I now understand, the actual letter Debbie DeLong read merely referred to Tom speaking “to a group of veterans” as his excuse for not being there.
Too bad Price didn’t bother to be specific. Now he has enraged the wrath of EVERY veteran, from both sides of the aisle!
June 1st, 2006 at 5:45 pm
Matt,
That’s all well and good if you wish to vote for Sinton. But, if you’re a Republican who is planning on voting in the July Primary, you will not have a chance to vote for Sinton. And, since he is the only one running on the Dem ballot, it’d be kinda ridiculous for you to waste your oportunity to vote for him in the Primary.
SO, do the district a favor and vote in the GOP primary AGAINST Tom Price, and, whether Price or Konop wins the primary, YOU will be able to cast your vote for Sinton in the November General Election.
Do you understand the playing field now?
June 1st, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Dr. Tom Price is for whatever the chambers of commerce and insurance companies espouse. He believes that damages for blindness, paraplegia or death of a child or a stay at home Mom resulting from medical malpractice should be valued at $350,000.00 (before attorney fees and if a jury rules with you; they will not just write the victim a check ) by legislative fiat.
Look up the bills he sponsored in the Georgia legislature. That was his position as a State Senator and that is his reason for going to Congress and that his is position while in Congress. This is now the law of Georgia because a majority of our Republican Senators and Representatives supported and passed that legislation in 2005 despite Republican lawyers like myself (I do not handle medical malpractice cases) trying to persuade them that such was bad public policy and certain to lead to victims of such malpractice becoming burdens upon the taxpayers of this state when the paltry sums allowed to the living victims are quickly used up.
It is all about money and special interests folks. Vote Republican, but make damn sure they subscribe to traditional Republican principles and are not Democratic Rats jumping a sinking ship in Republican clothing. Whatever happened to the Goldwater Republican principles of personal responsibility and pursuit of justice which attracted me to become a member of the Republican Party in 1964?
“Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice;
Moderation in the Pursuit of Justice is No Virtue.”
Source: Barry Goldwater; U.S. Senator; Longtime
Advocate of Justice & Basic Principles of Freedom
June 1st, 2006 at 9:21 pm
[...] From the Political Vine: The agenda for the ECCA event was as follows: 6:30 PM-7:00 PM was a reception for all candidates, and then the forum began at 7:00 PM. The “reception” was for any candidate in any/all parties running for any position that affected Cobb County. State Rep races, State Senate races, School Board races, Governor, Lt. Governor, Attorney General race, PSC races, Congressional races (both District 6 and District 11), etc., etc. [...]
June 1st, 2006 at 9:41 pm
Let’s not lump everyone together on this seperation of powers deal. Truth is that over 80% of Republicans and over 70% of Democrats think that the FBI was justified, with a warrant, searching Jefferson’s DC office. There are cooks on both sides crying that it was wrong but it seems that only the Republican cooks are getting the press and making the rest look bad.
June 1st, 2006 at 10:17 pm
Tom Price like so many incumbents has clearly and obviously ALWAYS been a pawn of special interests. At no time has Price chosen to uphold the interests of constituents, with the exception of doctors and lawyers in the ‘tort reform’ sham, that served only to benefit the aforementioned.
When you view races, all too often the top candidates are controlled by the same ‘Chamber’ interest. But yet, people don’t stop to listen to or recognize the independent voice, sounding concerns like their own, that do NOT have the same money, connections, or allegiance.
Unfortunately, what most fail to understand is, the well financed, connected, and positioned, are typically bankrolled by those who have a lack of honor, decency, and commitment to their own community, but instead serve wanton usury. Notice for example the continued footprint on Republican Candidates of oil, gas, and fellow incumbents. This is no accident, and like it or not, leads from locals like Clay to Bush in the White House. Lucius Clay and Daddy Bush shared quite a bit in terms of investment in mens’ souls! See John McCloy for a common link!!
Beyond holding the scoundrels accountable, maybe it’s time for the public to SIT (‘Stop Incumbent Tyranny’), stand, scream, and demand truth, from those who choose to expand and privitize government, while sending family members to die for oil profits, while the rest of America loses.
Whether through the Republican control of the courts (Judge Adele Grubbs was appointed by ‘PAC Man’ Newt Gingrich during the ‘Contract with America’, while Brock Clay Calhoun hand her the ‘Citizen of the Year’ Award from the Chamber, and guess who will be “handling” the school redistricting introduced by Clay’s pawn Rep. Earl Ehrhart…that’s right…Grubbs.
It’s time for REAL people, who are well informed, and WILL uphold the rule of the law, NOT further personal profiteering, to be elected. How can we trust our communities to those, who are not in touch with the issues, challenges, or scams? In that regard, I humbly ask citizens to visit http://www.ElectRice.org.
When my husband and I faced overwhelming fraud and corruption (www.RiceGang.com) condoned by the courthouse and elected officials, at the hands of none other than our State Senator’s law firm (Chuck Clay/Glenn Brock/Richard Calhoun) furthered by incumbents and Chamber Members, we stood tall against countless odds for the rule of law to be made available to all Georgians. And there were no incumbents, elected officials, or court officials willing to do the same.
So now in light of the corruption, privitization of government, and disregard displayed by incumbents, I ask each of you, are you ready to vote, work, or further, those who not ONLY talk, but actually LIVE TRUTH and work diligently to further Constitutional freedoms for all Georgians? But before you answer, remember, the choice is yours, you’ll get what you vote/work/pay for! Aren’t you ‘Ready for a Change?’
Isn’t it time to SIT (Stop Incumbent Tyranny) and the Gang Land Approach to Government?! Be sure to explain the answer you choose to your children or maybe discuss it with incumbents, if you can find them!
Taffy Rice
Taffy Rice for House District 36
Andy Rice for Senate District 37
June 1st, 2006 at 10:34 pm
6/01/’06
I know vets and survivors who are livid the US Senate voted just before Memorial Day to give away as a doorprize to criminal intruders the rights of the citizenship that vets died to protect and preserve. These patriots look to the House to reverse the disrespect the Senate showed our vets.
I know what had been initially misrepresented to be a LWV debate was in fact a GALEO/LWV debate. News reports of hooting at Dr. Price’s regrets confirmed this. Who would react that way but illegals and their allies, disappointed at having missed an opportunity to heckle a member of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, led by Tom Tancredo?
Lastly, character aside, I know Tom Price is not stupid. Thus, I can’t conceive his using a false alibi so readily disproved.
In light of these 3 elements, I suggest skeptics ask Tom Price about the evening of 5/31 before presuming they have all the answers. If guilty, y’all can always hang him later; so let’s hear the testimony before passing sentence.
John Tomaski, Conservative to the core.
June 2nd, 2006 at 8:52 am
John Tomaski, I just want to clairify something as I was actually AT the debate. That crowd was booing Tom Price for not showing up. End of story.
If anything, it was a primarily conservative crowd. They cheered when John Konop said he would not vote for the Senate amnesty bill.
I can understand why a Tom Price supporter would wish to believe otherwise, but what happened is what happened…
June 2nd, 2006 at 9:08 am
This veteran is NOT livid that the US Senate voted for a realistic and practical immigration law. The problem we currently have bears witness to the fact that our current immigration laws are inadequate to meet the needs of industry, i.e., supply the labor that is needed to support agriculture, construction, and other industries. Obviously, big business WANTS these workers because the work they offer is attracting thousands to cross the hot desert at great personal peril. They come here because they, like all Americans, want to work and support their families. Most would come legally if there were enough visas available. 10,000 per year does not begin to meet the needs of our industries.
We need to put an end to the human trafficking that is the result of our current laws. We also need to ensure that employers are paying all workers fairly and not paying immigrants less. Further, we need to make sure that the taxes that should be paid by and for these workers (remember the employer part of social security, etc.?) are paid.
Since I was in the audience at the Steve Sinton and John Konop debate, I can tell you that there were no illegals there. The majority of the attendees were white or black and the only visible Latino there was Jerry Gonzalez, who is head of GALEO. There was one question relating to immigration, which both candidates answered well according to their political convictions. The rest of the questions were about other issues such as Fair Tax.
Obviously, with his being picture taken at the ECCA event, we know that Tom Price was there at the “Republican Love Fest” and not at the legitimate debate where he was supposed to be.
Tom Price may be a doctor who even graduated with honors, but that doesn’t guarantee that he is honorable.
RuthE Levy, Candidate
GA State Senate, District 32
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:02 am
Bill Simon,
I am fully aware of how the primary and general elections work. I am a Republican, and have voted Repulcian in the past nine primary elections.
However, I was so impressed with Sinton at the candidate forum, and I believed him and agreed with his positions so much – especially being against Fair Tax – I will vote Democrat in the Primary to give the guy my vote, and obstain on the other votes.
I am so tired of my party trying to get me to believe that the “Fair Tax” is fair. IT IS NOT. Unless you are a millionaire, you will pay MORE taxes, NOT LESS!
And John Tomaski, Mr. Price is the one who selected the date and chose to not attend, as the League of Women Voters confirmed during the debate.
At the exact time Price was supposed to be speaking to the Veterans group, he was actually at the East Cobb Civic Event. His photo was taken and in the Marietta Daily Journal on line yesterday! There is your proof, and talk with the reporters and other citizens who attended as well. They can further prove he was there during the debate.
Price was scheduled to be with Konop and Sinton at 9:00 pm at the East Cobb Event, NOT earlier when he actually attended. This guy took off and left at about the time Konop and Sinton arrived, in order to avoid – yet again – a side by side with his oponents. I have to ask myself, what is this guy hiding?????
You want proof, here is more proof. The man sitting beside me, a fellow Republican, received a text message that Price was at the other event at the same time Debbie DeLong was reading his bogus letter that he was with the Veterans. Absolutely no one has been able to confirm what veteran group he was attending, because he was in East Cobb – a few minutes from the Congressional Debate for the seat he now holds! I was shocked and embarrased for my party! I also felt terrible for his campaign manager, and the boos and hisses she got. By the way, I overheard her tell someone she is leaving Price after the Primary to go to work somewhere else. WHO CAN BLAME HER? WOULD YOU WORK FOR SOMEONE WHO PUT YOU IN THIS POSITION? Price was hiding under her skirt on this one.
In November, I will vote almost totally Republican. However, Sinton will keep my vote if he continues to state that he will operate as my lobbist, and not fall victim to big money and corporate corruption. He says he will not, I want to give him the chance to prove it.
Bottom line, our forefathers were right to do one thing, create a system of balance with at least two parties.
My party has let me down since they took over the House, the Senate and the Presidency. We have no checks and balances. I was SO hopeful when my party took control of everything. I believed great – we can finally get things done in Washington. I was SOLD OUT!
I have three kids, and as Sinton said, I am worried that they will not have the opportunities I had at their age because of the terrible mess with the out of control spending, and Washington trying to turn everything into big business.
We cannot evaporate the middle class, and become a country of haves and have nots!
I am an executive for a fortune 500 company, and I live better than most. However, I am extremely concerned about what is happening with our country. I am not alone. Look at the polls on the evening news.
Mr. Price was a cop out this week, and I know for certain I am not the only Republican vote he lost. Konop is doing a find job, but I doubt will win the primary. Come November, I expect Sinton to be the major upset of the mid-term elections.
AND THAT WILL BE A GOOD THING FOR US!
Matt Thomas
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:08 am
For those considering voting for Sinton, be aware that for all the conservative talk in district, most Democrats will vote with their party when they get to Congress. Even worse they could help make Pelosi “Speaker of the House”.
Even a deceitful RHINO is worse than that. Since NFulton has become a larger part of the 6th, replacing Price becomes even more difficult. We blew it by not electing LaMutt when we had a Chance.
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:19 am
Someone asked what Tom Price has voted for that was in the interests of his district. He clearly thinks that Children’s Safety is NOT important to the 6th District. I am eagerly awaiting his response to my letter!
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:28 am
Sinton was specifically asked by a Republican during the second event if he would vote the party for Speaker of the House, or the party.
He clearly stated he would vote the person.
I believed him. This guy does not seem like the kind of man who will be bought by anyone, nor forced to tote the party line.
I wish we had more of him already, and I bet we would be in a better place.
Yes, LaMutt was a better choice in the last election. We have one of three choices now.
I am going with Sinton. I want to give him a chance to prove himself – right or wrong.
He too will have to answer to the district if he does not keep his word.
We know for certain Price did not and will not.
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:30 am
For clarity, he was asked if he would vote the party or the person…..
He was very clear he would vote the person, and not the party.
The guy beside me said, “We’ll see.”
I challenge him to prove just that and do it.
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 am
Matt Thomas is absolutely correct, at the time Price’s letter was being read – text messages were going off all over the Council Chambers saying that Price was at the almost totally Republican forum, and not at his own event with about 200 of his constituents.
It is also true that the League of Women Voters said they approached Price first because of his busy schedule, and that HE chose the date.
I was shocked to see his photo on line yesterday in the MDJ at the other event.
Anyone who would openly support this guy now will look like a fool!
I am terrified he is my representative.
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:48 am
In order for Sinton to beat Price in November, it will require the votes of Democrats, Republicans and Independents.
I am proud of the fact that there seems to be independent thinkers in District 6.
It is time we start looking at each candidate, and voting for a candidate and not a party.
After we elect the candidate, WE MUST INSIST THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL PUT ASIDE PARTISIAN GAMES AND REPRESENT OUR NEEDS FIRST.
I pray for the day America regains the respect of the world, and that our elected officials regain the respect of Americans.
Oh, what a glorious day that will be!
June 2nd, 2006 at 10:58 am
IS IT TRUE? IS PRICE LOSING HIS CAMPAING MANAGER AFTER THE PRIMARY?
If it is, I have to ask myself, WHY?
Does she think she will need a job after the primary because Konop will win in July, or is it because she has lost faith in her Congressman?
Either way, this looks bad for Price.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:05 am
WOULD YOU WORK FOR PRICE AFTER FORCING YOU TO READ A BOGUS LETTER, AND THEN GETTING BOOS AND HISSES FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE DISTRICT?
That poor lady turned red from head to toe. I was embarrased for Republicans, and felt bad for her.
I wouldn’t work for the guy either.
You know, our district is made up of businessmen and women. We know how to fire an employee who is cannot do the job.
The more I read and learn, the more angry I get, and the more I believe we must make changes.
This is one guy I have no problem firing.
I’m getting off the site, it makes my blood boil to think how bad this guy made my party look. We are better than this!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:16 am
Dear Matt,
You’re absolutely right. Tom Price needs to be fired and Steve Sinton needs to be supported. By the way, in the several months I have known Steve, he has never varied from his stance in immigration. I think you can count on him to be true to his word.
Meanwhile, I hope you will contact him at steve@stevesinton.com and offer your support!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:24 am
I went to http://www.stevesinton.com to learn more about the candidate.
I was impressed. What a wonderful suprise he is!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:27 am
RuthE, you beat me to the punch!
My thoughts exactly.
You say you have known Sinton for months, do you think this guy will sell out to the big business lobby groups, or will he be his own man?
Will he represent our needs before his own?
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:30 am
And did I hear you say you were a veteran? What is your web site? I want to learn more about you.
I see you are running for office as well.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:32 am
Yes, Debbie DeLong IS leaving the Price Compound after the primary. She’s going to work for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Too bad the Chamber cannot take her on now…because, after being forced to go read a letter likely conceived by Price’s consultant that was a BLATANT lie, I don’t think Debbie looks forward to driving to the campaign office anymore.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:33 am
I went to the link at the MDJ, and look what I found!
Price was indeed across town when he should have been at his own debate.
http://www.mdjonline.com/articles/2006/06/01/268/10220229.txt
You guys want proof, you got your proof above!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:40 am
If I were Debbie, I would leave now. I would not work for anyone who made me read a letter to a conservative crowd that was a lie.
I am also offended that he hid behind the Veterans, of all the people he could have chosen.
He should have just told us the truth, he was an incumbant who did not feel the need to debate. He thinks he has the election in the bag.
I guess he had the same intel as weapons of mass destruction, and other Republican lies.
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:42 am
TOM PRICE: Today’s Deep Thought
I bet the sparrow looks at the parrot and thinks, yes, you can talk, but LISTEN TO YOURSELF!
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:58 am
[...] Nothing more needs to be said…just check out the link [...]
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:00 pm
RuthE,
I am going to give him my vote, but as a Republican, I am not ready to totally abandon ship yet. Hell, I may even write Sinton a check.
I used to be so proud to be a Republican, however, I recently took off my “W” bumper sticker, because I felt like my car could be damaged while I park down town due to the number of angry Americans out there.
I want to be proud again, and I hope I will be.
I hope Price gets called to the carpet by the party for pulling this stunt this week, and putting people like me in this position. I just hate it!
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:02 pm
If you want to write Sinton a check, you can go to his web site at http://www.stevesinton.com and donate.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:19 pm
I removed the Bush-Cheney 2004 sticker from my car in late 2003. But, I’ve always seen things coming down the pike a lot earlier than anyone else, usually.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:27 pm
For more proof of my statement regarding Debbie DeLong’s impending departure from the Price Campaign, look no further than the fact that her e-mail address is not listed on the Price campaign Website any longer:
Tom Price
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Would you keep your name on the site after what he did to her?
I understand her father is a big donor. If I were him, I would close my check book on this guy now.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:55 pm
Could all of this possibly be true? I am a conservative Republican…..
One thing I have always been proud of the Republicans for is our ability to fire our problem candidates.
If all this is true, it looks like we need to send this guy back to his medical practice. Physicians are not known as great businessmen.
If this guy did indeed set up this debate and then did not show up, that is just BAD BUSINESS!
For you guys that heard Price speak at the Mountainview Community Center, what did he have to say, and what time was he there?
John Konop, I am true to my party. If all this is true, you have my vote. I heard you and Price on the radio this week, and was shocked that he did not know the issues as well as you did.
I admire you, John, for having the ability to not only stand up to Price, but to be convicted enough to your principals that you will run as a Republican even though we all know that the party will only support the incumbant.
Who knows, maybe you will win the primary. Everyone says you are taking a bite out of this guy.
June 2nd, 2006 at 12:57 pm
Rick,
Price was at Mountian View during the exact time he was claiming to be with our Veterans.
How could this guy ever select Veterans of all people???????
This is an insult to our men and women who proudly served our country,
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:05 pm
I was at the League of Women Voters Debate, and Debbie did an outstanding job despite the boos and hisses! I liked both John and Steve, but it suddenly occurred to me that even if Tom HAD attended, he would have been out-numbered anyway…two against one! It was great fun for the two other guys to point to the empty chair and make caustic comments, but a true debate needs to take place AFTER the primary, when it’s one on one.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:13 pm
Uhhh, please stop with the tax break for the rich garbage. The rich pay the MAJORITY of the taxes in the country not the poor. As a matter of fact the poor pay NO taxes as they get everything back at the end of the year when they file…actually they get MORE than they put in back due to the earned income credit. It’s the so called rich in this country who create jobs, start businesses and on and on and on.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:23 pm
Very observant Mike….and just between you and me…the rich benefit more from the services provided by the federal government than those who can’t afford to pay as much in taxes. You know like national defense, a monetary system that benefits the rich, regulated air travel, regulated rail travel. The people that you readily look down on for not paying taxes NEVER use these benefits…
As a percentage of GDP these services far outweigh FEDERAL revenue expenditures on the services poor people cost. Before you start capping off at the keyboard about Medicare and Social Security and Welfare, you might take a look at the FEDERAL expenditures for these programs in comparison to defense, intelligence and homeland security.
With that said, why WOULDN’T the rich have a heavier dollar amount burden? They afterall benefit more than those that pay less taxes.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:34 pm
Elizabeth,
RuthE is the candidate for GA State Senate District 32 (East Cobb and Sandy Springs). Her website is http://www.RuthELevy.com. Come visit, critique and donate!
Thanks,
David Lombrozo
Campaing Manager
Friends of RuthE Levy
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Rick,
No need to just be true to your party! Open your mind to other ideas. Steve Sinton is a conservative Democrat with great ideas with regard to immigration, defense and family values.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:41 pm
Jean,
“Outnumbered 2 to 1?”
Puh-leeze. We’re talking about a so-called “sitting MEMBER OF CONGRESS.”
If he is afraid to debate BEFORE the primary with at least HIS primary opposition, JOHN KONOP, then what difference does it make after the primary?
I’m thinking maybe you don’t quite understand that Konop is a Republican facing Price in the Republican Primary, and Sinton will face either Konop or Price in the General Election.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:42 pm
Chris,
OK, assume my mind is open. What are the conservative positions that Steve Sinton takes regarding immigration, defense and family values? I will listen – though my wife says I’m not very good at it.
I must say, however, I am impressed with Konop. The guy has tremendous passion.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:46 pm
David,
Thanks for sending the spot on RuthE.
I went to her site and found it great! I like her ideas, and I loved the actual site. It looks unique, perhaps like the candidate….Who did the design work?
I will sign up to help!
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Does anyone out there think Sinton, a Democrat, can actually win a seat in Congress from the 6th district?
Didn’t this used to be Newt’s seat?
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:52 pm
Rick, you are correct – the 6th district used to belong to Newt.
Here is an interesting response to your question. Isn’t this where the Republicans began a shift in the sands from Democrat rule to Republican rule? If so, it would appear we are an independent thinking group, that might be willing to shift the sands again.
I’m just a frustrated, conservative Republican looking for a silver lining at the moment.
June 2nd, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Rick – Let’s not only hope Sinton can get elected, let’s help him get elected.
The guy looks like a Republican, sounds a little like one, and still is true to the Democratic party and his values. He could have easily run as a Republican, and had an easier path.
Sinton’s common sense values are exactly the dose of real world that our district needs – not someone out of touch, who is lobbying to make certain that caps are put on malpractice law suits so his doctor buddies will continue to write checks for his campaign.
My two cents worth.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:05 pm
To answer your question Rick yes I do think a Democrat can win in the 6th district this year. Given the low approval ratings for congress at the moment I believe that incumbents all over the country in “safe districts” will be out of a job come November. If you think this isn’t possible just remember the election in 1994 when incumbents in “safe districts” were defeated in droves.
Now on to my opinion of the debate.
Steve Sinton and John Konop were both very impressive in the debate. on a scale 1-10 with 10 being the best score I would give Steve a 9.5, I would give John a 7.
Steve Sinton has my vote for sure. I encourage anyone that like what they see in Steve to help him out. Volunteer, donate some money, spread the word about him. He can be a Representative that this district can be proud of
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:06 pm
I have been consistently impressed with Mr. Konop. While I do not reside in the 6th district, I do realize the importance of getting the right people into congress regardless of their district.
But don’t expect to see Tom Price debate Konop now. He doesn’t want the image of him having his ass handed to him fresh in voters minds as we move closer to primaries. A debate with Konop (who is better informed on the issues) would be the end of Price.
Like I said, I’m not a 6th resident, but am very impressed by John Konop.
Konop ’06!
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:07 pm
There’s your silver lining.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:09 pm
http://georgia_tarheel.mydd.com/story/2006/6/1/17655/14080
Here is another great link to this continuing story!
Ay Carramba! Georgia Republican Runs From Immigration Debate HE SCHEDULED!
Dios mio! Georgia Congressman Tom Price, was a no show for a district immigration debate HE scheduled. Even worse, he sent his Campaign Manager to LIE and say he was meeting with war veterans, however, he was photographed shaking hands at a community forum up the street.
Despite Price’s no-show, Democrat Steve Sinton and Republican challenger John Konop held a spirited debate on immigration, education, the economy, gas prices, and jobs.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Ay Carramba!
And the amazing thing is this – the guy had no reason to duck out from the immigrant issue. The room was filled with mostly conservative 6th district voters.
I think he was hiding behind his voting record, and the Delay money he took!
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:38 pm
Braden,
You just nailed it. His voting record is embarassing.
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:45 pm
Braden,
Say, ummm…you don’t mind if I wait until the outcome of the GOP Primary on July 18 before I try to get Sinton elected, do you?
Because if John Konop DEFEATS Tom Price (and, he has upwards of 45 days to deliver the message to 200,000 voters that Price is, not only a liar, but a really stupid liar), I’m going to have to go with supporting John Konop in the General. Sorry…I know that might sound weird…
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:15 pm
Let’s keep our eye on the ball. Tom Price is a BAD EXPERIENCE and must be removed from office.
Democrats get to vote against Tom twice. First, they can vote for Konop in the July Republican primary (Sinton is unopposed). Then they can vote for Sinton in the general election in November.
June 2nd, 2006 at 3:21 pm
I was there. Tom Price’s “The dog ate my homework” type excuse did not go down well at all. Boos resounded along with other expressions of incredulity. I actually felt sorry for his minion until I found out from this site that TP was over at Mountain View and she knew it. By the way, TP was not specific as to “what vet group.” I believe I recall it went “…he is talking to a group of veterans…” No doubt he will excuse himself if held to account by saying there were veterans in the group over at Mountain View. What a jerk.
Steve and John both did a good job but I thought John was harsh, strident and out of touch with a significant portion of his audience regarding immigration. Steve pointed out, and rightly so, how much it would cost to deport every illegal here, many of whom have been here for years, pay taxes and contribute to, not burden, their community.
June 2nd, 2006 at 5:41 pm
Well i think most Democrats would want to vote in the Democratic Primary because of the statewide races. So we get to vote for Sinton twice
June 2nd, 2006 at 11:19 pm
Haven’t we had enough with politicians sounding like they belong to the other party? Personally I’d prefer a Democrat that sounds like a Liberal and is more in tune with the National Democratic Party. Right this second we have only one National Party under two names and I’m tired of it. Vote Democratic or Republican and you get the same Government, spend more, tax more.
Don’t most of you wish you could test candidates on the Constitution? I doubt that President Bush or John Kerry could muster a 20% grade on what that document says. I know Dr. Price doesn’t know what it says, and he certainly hasn’t voted in line with Constitutional Principles. Dr. Price was a Invasion dove until he realized the depth of feeling expressed by the people of his district. He then became a hawk, proving once again he can flip flop with the best of politicians.
Call illegal immigration what it is, an INVASION of a Sovereign Nation by foreign Nationals from another Sovereign Nation. For every one who has come North with the sincere goal of improving the life of his/her family, there are 4 with different motives from smuggling drugs, terrorist, political operatives or just plain criminals/gang members. If the invasion isn’t stopped soon there will be no chance in the future. Mexican Families produce an average of 5 Children, most White Families 2 Children, with unchecked Invasion and births it will take a single generation for your votes and opinions to be worthless, thank GOD by that time I’ll be home.
John Konop sounds like a Conservative Republican, he will receive my vote and any of those people I might influence. Should Dr. Price prevail, I’d vote for anyone running against him in the General, but I do not believe there is any such animal as a Conservative Democrat.
June 3rd, 2006 at 5:42 am
Dr Swan,
It is too bad that the divisive nature of politics today leads some down the road of voting strictly along party lines. There have been successful examples of Progressive Republicans like Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt. Some might even call John McCain more progressive than others and as a left leaning progressive I could see myself voting for any of these guys, especially if they were going up against far left leaning candidates.
Its all about the race and who has views that fit in with mine, not which party they are running with. My decision about who I vote for in the 6t district is made based on who aligns most closely with my beliefs and who I think can do the most good (or least bad). Since it’s a House seat, it means we get to change our minds in 2 years if they aren’t performing and as far as I can tell, Mr Price had his chance and squandered it by aligning so closely with Tom Delay, not supporting the Children’s Safety Act and not taking a fervent stand against the violation of Constitutional rights that have been sucked up in a vacuum under the current executive administration.
When I vote for Steve Sinton in the election and he wins, he has two years to not screw the pooch like TP did, to keep my vote. It’s a sad state of affairs when all you have to do is not overtly violate the trust of your constituents to have a chance at re-election.
June 3rd, 2006 at 9:26 am
Chris,
If you are a “left-leaning progressive,” does that mean you actually are standing straight-up on the political spectrum?
June 3rd, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Dr. Swann,
My opinion of Sinton as a pretty conservative Democrat is based on his positions.
Frankly, I wish we could do away with party affiliations and do as Sinton suggested – run an election in front of the people – with many open forums, and not measure candidates on how much money they raise.
As a country, we would all be better off.
I don’t think we can measure any one candidate based on those we have met before. Each man or woman will be measured on their individual qualities and character.
A really great thing about Konop and Sinton is that neither have run for political office before. In as much, they are not indebted to the political establishment.
They both seem to be their own men.
June 3rd, 2006 at 2:19 pm
Has anyone been able to determine what Veteran’s group Price was visiting?
June 3rd, 2006 at 4:19 pm
I just got the answer to my own question.
GO TO THE MARIETTA DAILY JOURNAL, JUNE 2, 2006, PAGE 8A – Editor Bill Kinney – Right column.
THE TWO EVENTS SCHEDULED FOR CANDIDATES FOR 6TH DISTRICT WERE AS FOLLOWS:
Debate at Marietta City Council – 6:30, for the Meet and Greet, Debate from 7:00 until 8:00.
East Cobb Civic pushed back their event to 9:30 for the 6th District Candidates, to accomodate the earlier debate.
First, Kinney’s article says that Price was at the Marietta VFW Post from 5 to 7 pm, and that he told the League of Women Voters that he had a conflict when he was invited to attend the first debate.
The League of Women Voters clearly told the crowd that Tom Price picked the date, and then backed out. That they went to him first and asked that he give them the dates he was available, and the would work everyone else around his schedule. They did – AND HE DID NOT SHOW!
Secondly – the debate did not begin until 7:00 at the Marietta City Hall. Everyone would have gladly waited until 7:15 for Price and camp to drive over from the VFW just down the street, if that is what needed to happen.
The East Cobb Civic Association slated the District 6 Congressional candidates to begin at 9:30 – NOT 7:00 AS PRICE CLAIMED.
Go to the web site of Sinton and Konop, and it clearly gives the times. They were NOT scheduled for 7 to 9, as Price claimed to Bill Kinney.
However, at 7:00, the instant messages started going off like crazy in the Marietta City Council Chamber Room – because at exactly the time his debate was scheduled, PRICE walked into the Mountain View Center – 2 1/2 hours before he was scheduled to be there.
He also received a heads up at 8:30 that Konop and Sinton had finished, and were on the way over to Mountain View. At exactly the same time, after being alerted by DeLong, PRICE AND TEAM LEFT IN ORDER TO AVOID RUNNING INTO KONOP AND SINTON. Guess he did not want to be held accountable for his voting record.
MR. SIMON – YOUR ARTICLE IS ACCURATE AND NOW PROVEN TO BE TRUE BY PRICE HIMSELF – PRICE IS A LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE LIAR – AND A TOTAL CHICKEN TOO!
Worse yet, he let his office send a bogus e-mail keeping up the lie.
THIS IS THE MAN WHO REPRESENTS ME IN CONGRESS??????? THAT IS FRIGHTENING!
IT IS BAD ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT, BUT ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE THAT PRICE WILL NOT STAND AND FACE HIS CONSTITUENTS.
June 3rd, 2006 at 4:21 pm
My wife just brought me the same article that Elizabeth refers to. I went to the web sites and looked up the specifics.
UNBELIEVABLE! I have to ask, what is price hiding from?
June 3rd, 2006 at 4:29 pm
Please note: Bill Simon has just put out a secondary line that he has the video and absolute proof that Price has lied about all of the events.
I for one cannot wait to see them.
June 3rd, 2006 at 4:32 pm
BUT, for those who have visited this article and are wondering what all this has to do with a “Saga”, well, there is a relation to the article below on Tom Price being a liar (”cubed”, as it were)…and, it is this:
Can you find Tom Price in the Picture?
Read the article. At the end of the article, quiz yourself on this 1-question: Where, exactly, was Tom Price on the evening of May 31, 2006?
Hold onto that answer for just a little while. Because, in a day or so, I will post the link to an audio-recording of the event with the League of Women Voters that was scheduled around Tom’s schedule on May 31. The “event” will include the preamble to the meeting, and then Debbie DeLong’s reading of the letter from Tom Price on why he couldn’t make the League’s event.
I have that recording. I have proof of what I claimed that Tom Price is a liar. Not “conjecture.” Proof. Proof that, quite honestly, I’d like to stuff down the throat of a certain someone still employed by Price who is making calls around the state of Georgia telling supporters of Tom Price that I’m full of it…that I’m making this stuff up.
Well, after I release the recording into the wild, I’ll just pen-in another enemy gained on the list this year.
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July 25th, 2006 at 8:01 am
Tom Price needs to be voted out.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:31 pm
Wow are you sure he is a bad guy? If so why does he consistahtly vote for pur armed forces. He supports us nearly 100% of the time. On several occasions he voted againt the legislation becase some of oour comrades could be hurt by that proposal. I have been to several meetings when Mr Price has debated his opponents and believe was very cordial to his opponents and did a better job of getting across than his opponents.
As for your pride in being a Democrat, You have to be kidding me. Edward Kennedy let that lady in his car. John Kerry cant tell true. He and Hanoi Jane are guilty of aiding the enemy but be cause they oppose the war they were saved by the democrats. As usual the dumocrats are aiding the enemy by opposing anything that he proposes.. I would be a democrat but I LOVE MY COUNTRY and will not demean my President. Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman both are spinning in there graves because of the anti-AMERICAN TROOPS attitude that your beloved Democrats in Congress. Mr Murtha is a prime example of which I speak lied about his medals, mainly his purple heart he did hot earn. You Dumacrates keep reelecting him.
GOD HELP THIS COUNTRY IF YOU KEEP ELECTING THIS GROUP TO CONGRESS! yOI AND THE lEFT ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.
My 2 CENTS,
James O. Wallace Jr
ETCM(SEAL) USN Retire
Plankowner SEAL Team 2
October 15th, 2006 at 12:09 am
Mr. Wallace:
I have voted for one Democrat for a National office, Jimmy Carter for President his first time. I have zero use for Teddy and I despise Kerry or Mr. Heinz if you prefer. I am a disabled Vietnam Vet, but we have to face the fact that it doesn’t matter who we elect we get exactly the same government. Presidente Jorge Bush has sold out the citizens of this country in hundreds of ways, not the least of which is the North American Union, a plan to unite Canada, the US, and Mexico as a union like the EU. That is why he insist on giving amnesty to all the millions of illegals now in the US, that was what he promised Presidente Fox of Mexico. The War in Iraq was and is being fought to cause average Americans to lose focus on what is happening at home, no jobs, gas and fuel prices out of sight, and corruption in Congress that turns most folks stomachs. Democrats and Republicans are both evil, not every single person, but certainly the parties as a whole, and when you vote for the lesser of two evils you still elect evil. Our Presidents have no honor or integrity, there are fewer Senators with those qualities than Lot was searching for at the end of Sodom and Gomorrah (no spell check, sorry). In the US House there are probably 25% of the members who aren’t corrupt, yet.
I know Dr. Price, he fits in perfectly with the culture of corruption and greed. Like a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then, even Dr. Price can’t be wrong on every issue, even a broken clock is right twice a day, which is about Dr. Price’s average. Only those bottom feeding Senators from Mass are wrong about everything all the time.
October 15th, 2006 at 9:07 am
James, I have to wonder whether we’re watching the same Tom Price. Has Price voted for or against bills that would have provided the armed forces all the armor they needed? Or has he just followed the Bush lead?
I’m very unimpressed with the Tom Price voting record. Most importantly, the Schiavo case, voting against stem cell funding, and voting to table an investigation of Jack Abramoff show him to be far out of touch with my values.
Asked about the Foley scandal, Price doesn’t show any interest in personal responsibility–he prefers to poin the finger at Democrats for what happened 20 years ago. Not impressed ONE TINY BIT.
I don’t believe he’s spoken out when Bush has added signing statements to bills he’s voted for, such as the recent funding bill for Homeland Security. The signing statement asserts that Bush need not follow the qualifications Congress established for head of FEMA–merely 5 years of disaster management experience, which I thought was perfectly called for considering the buffoon Bush put in place last time. Having loved ones in NOLA, I am personally offended by Bush’s signing statement. I bet Price has no idea it even happened.
He voted no on the McCain bill to ban torture.
I really resent the far right yelling ‘anti-American’ at the bequest of talking idiots like Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly. I don’t need to hear that from you, and I don’t need you to repeat their bull-caka in all caps.
If you prefer to live in fear and pay lip-service to supporting the troops, SO BE IT. It is brainless Republicans who are ruining this country, and I cannot WAIT until November to see them lose one or both Houses of Congress. Better days are ahead!!
October 15th, 2006 at 9:08 am
By the way, I just noticed–James, you put 3 lines into supporting Price and 6 into bashing Democrats. Typical Republican. My response specifically concerned Price’s votes. Perhaps if you choose to respond again, you should stick to the facts.
October 15th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I will stand up your right to freedom of speech but also will not give away my right to disagree. I am not going to lower my standards to insult any one personally. I intent to get all of you that I believe deserves it. You will know wh0 you are!I heard alot of trashing of the congressman and slamming of those who disagree with you. I have heard several comments against both men and believe that those wh making demeaning comments have no personal integrity. I served my country for over 20 years and will not allow anyone to impune that service.
I heard the crap that Hanoi Jane spread and the Lies of John Kerry that he spread in an effort to become President.
If you have never served this country in some manner other that of being a loud mouth nay sayer, I believe you should get out of this country and check into one that you think is better. lotsa luck. The travel channel does not show the worst side of those countries.
I am not sure of the dates but Mr Price was invited and accepted our invitation to join DAV Chapter 6′s monthly meeting. He did in fact come to see us twice.
As for the option outlawing the water torture, I would have voted against it also. It would require the members of our armed forces to tie their other arm behind thier back. I doubt very few of you have ever served in the armed forces. You let the real American Hero’s do the dirty work. Then you run around crying foul and bring them home and hang them, OR so that you can do what the peaceniks did to us when WE returned home from VietNan…spit in thier faces. How many of you have read the Koran. It requires muslims to try to convert you or KILL YOU.
Every time I hear your whines and accuations it turns my stomach.
The young men and ladies who are volunteering to serve in the armed forces are proving that they are far more patriotic than most of you will ever understand. They will be the “NEXT GREATEST GENERATION!
I hope they will say “shame on you” or as one of my former Commanding Officer’s said, ” DOOM ON YOU!” BUT ….No they wont, they are the future of this GREAT Country.
At least I know that they will SERVE,LOVE and PRESERVE the AMERICAN WAY.
James O Wallace Jr
ETCM(SEAL) USN Retired
October 16th, 2006 at 7:46 am
Jesus, here we go again with the melodramatic calls to patriotism and personal integrity. Hogwash.
I respect the military and I respect what they do. In the current battle against the ideology of radical Islam, it is not sensible to allow ourselves to stoop to the level of doing things that can be considered torture–the enemy remembers, and the more acts we perpetrate the higher the chance we invite NON “Radical Muslims” to pick up a grudge against America. In fact, this is the problem with W’s decision to call this a “War”–warfare is brutal and ugly, and if we do it “right” as you advocate, we’re going to piss off a whole lot of people and we’ll never be able to stamp it all out.
Drop the Hanoi Jane bullcrap, it’s spoiled milk. That’s what’s turning your stomach, and frankly your crap is turning mine.
I’m done with the uber-conservative pleas for patriotism and accusations of treason and God only knows what else. I can’t wait til November 7.
And I’m done with you.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:31 pm
You respect the military WOW! Never volunteered! You are willing to complainn but not put your life on the line. AND you are trough with me. You and the rest of the elite are willing to benefit from our putting our ass on the line and then sgream about what is being done but are too cowardly to serve. THAT IS WHAT MAKES MY STOMACH TURN. LOUDMOUTHED YELLOW BELLIED CHICKENS…….GO HOME TO MOMMY AND HIDE UNDER THE BED WHILE OTHERS PROTECT YOU LOUSY ASSED LIFE. YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THOSE PROFESSORS FROM ONE OF THOSE LIBERAL COLLOGES THAT PEACH THE SHIT BUT DONT WALK THE WALK. iT IS ME THAT IS THRU WITH PUKES LIKE YOU. MAYBE SOME DAY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR SUGAR TIT AND WALK OUT IN TO THE REAL WORLD. tHAT IS IF YOU GET A BACKBONE.
DOOMONYOU
October 16th, 2006 at 11:57 pm
I bet you’re proud of that little diatribe. I admire you.
October 17th, 2006 at 1:36 am
Wow,
All this hatred and I feel invisible. I am not a Democrat and I once was a Republican, so I guess I don’t matter. I’ve shead my blood in defense of this country and I think the current President is the worst in history. By definition he is a traitor who spends more money on the Iraq and Afgan borders than he does on the US borders. It is possible I’m stupid, my exwife certainly thought so, Mr. Wallace, but didn’t the Commander in Chief swear like you and I did to protect and defend this Country? You gave years, I gave blood, and President Bush is just giving our country away. You made some excellent points but ignoring the sins and crimes of the current President makes you look and sound irrational.
Political Labels and parties are identical which is to say worthless. Two of the best Congressmen I’ve ever witnessed are Phil Gingrey and Larry McDonald-a Republican and a Democrat, but they are both so foolish as to represent the people in their Districts. The rest of the Congress and Senators are like a baby’s diaper, they need changing often for the same reason.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:15 am
James O,
I served in the Army, with the 101st Airborne (Air Assault), twice. I believe that blindly following leaders who put our boys in danger for NO REASON flies directly in the face of what is good for our military. Go out any buy the new book Fiasco so you can see how the executive ignored the advice of military planners way more than once with regard to Iraq.
With that said, you apparently forgot what your service to our country was all about…preserving the freedom to dissent. That is the laurel our country was founded on and the constant theme you continue to bring forth in your posts consists of ridiculing those who have an opinion different from yours because they never served.
That is more like the way Ho Chi Min or Adolf Hitler would have run their kingdoms, not the way Thomas Jefferson of George Washington would have.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:36 am
“Author: Dr. William H. Swann
Comment:
Wow,
All this hatred and I feel invisible. I am not a Democrat and I once was a Republican, so I guess I don’t matter. I’ve shead my blood in defense of this country and I think the current President is the worst in history. By definition he is a traitor who spends more money on the Iraq and Afgan borders than he does on the US borders.”
Sir, I am totally in agreement with you on this, but would expand it to include the NeoCon and elite Repubs who are ruining the party. The scandals are just beginning.
As for the earlier comment by the elite Seal team member,whom we admire and respect,I would ask him to study how many bad wars our troops have been sent out on by a corrupt civilian government. WWI would just be for openers, and the USS Liberty survivors who have a war crimes charge against Israel sitting on the Dept of the Army’s desk with no action being taken…and also being ignored by the Navy.
It’s a nasty world.
Jim Dean
Military Order of Worlds, PR & Homeland Security Officer…Atlanta
Assoc. of Former Intelligence Officers