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Creative Loaf Has An Interesting Article on November 7 Results

by Bill Simon

Good questions to ask our leaders.

16 Responses to “Creative Loaf Has An Interesting Article on November 7 Results”

  1. Chris Says:

    Rather than the state funding the GA-400 double decker toll road, why not let the developers fund it, then reap all the profits it promises?

    I don’t like the idea of the state spending billions on a privatized plan. The whole idea of privatization is to let private industry do what it does best and leave the government out of it. That means paying for your own roads to riches.

  2. Chris Says:

    Does anyone agree with the assertion in the article that Republicans tend to not think their proposals through and provide at least the semblance of oppositional analysis before going forward with their plans?

  3. bill Says:

    Chris
    Dubai ports–privatization
    NAFTA Superhighway–privatization
    If the Republicans keep selling and leasing chunks of America to private companies Alot of people are going to leave the party for good. Can you say “white flight”? And frankly I’m sick of hearing commuters whine and pontificate. Why did you move there in the first place?

  4. Chris Says:

    Bill,
    If they leave the party for good, where are they going to go? It’s not like the Dems have a better plan to manage growth in their districts.

  5. bill Says:

    Actually they’re the only ones who seem to be doing that. Why don’t the Gwinetians have a freeze on building permits? That would help values of existing homes wouldn’t it? And allow infrastructure to catch up? And help the environment?

  6. bill Says:

    “Georgia Public Policy Foundation” nice innocuous sounding group. “Conservative think tank” Oh really? Buncha Georgia boys just got together one day? How many other states have one of these think tanks, or do these people just travel around? What overseas corporation do they work for? Georgians paying tolls to some foreign corporation for the next 75 years? Yeah. That’s a great way for Republicans to stay popular. http://www.missouritrading.com/naftahighway.htm

  7. Chris Says:

    Bill, you were against the socialism of privatizing health care through insurance agencies, but you’re for it when it comes to transportation and trade issues?

    Clarify please.

  8. bill Says:

    Sure Bro
    Roads and bridges. That’s one of the few things the government should handle, not private corporations. Freeways should stay free. Tolls are awful to alot of people whether they’re govt. owned or private. Gas tax increase maybe?
    And with healthcare I’m simply distrustful of additional government mandates although I’m not an expert.

  9. Chris Says:

    Well I don’t like the gas tax idea because we’re moving toward a diverse fuel supply system, with biofuels each having different efficiencies, hydrogen and biogas engines and electric cars coming down the line. Talk about complicated consumption tax structures. But what’s worse is slapping GPS sensors into everyone’s dash to transmit miles traveled back to some govt agency for taxation on miles traveled v. taxation on fuel consumption.

    Given the choices I’d rather pay tolls voluntarily and keep the government out of my car’s dash or gas tank. If they’re going to maintain ad valorem taxes, I’d just a soon they take what they need for road maintenance and growth management out of that kitty instead of the fuel taxes if they want to spare us a toll road system.

    And the future of healthcare in this country scares me to death. They keep holding up these European countries as examples of quality care at the taxpayers expense, signaling their intentions to do something similar here. As much as I loathe the corporatists robbing us blind with padded markups every step along the way, the thought of a government controlled healthcare system conjures up images of Katrina-style effectiveness on a national scale.

  10. bill Says:

    All the alternatives will only be a drop in the bucket for a good while. Gasoline and diesel-the most polluting and the easiest to tax. Tax that and thereby encourage alternatives.

  11. Chris Says:

    Alternatives are already taxed. Biofuel producers are already paying per gallon taxes on ethanol and biodiesel, at the same rate as petro fuels.

  12. bill Says:

    Chris
    that’s a real bummer.

  13. Chris Farris Says:

    Hi, Different Chris here…..

    The only reason I’m hesitant about toll roads is the privacy implications inherent in billing for usage. I’m not all that comfortable about there being a sellable or supeonable record of all my travels.

  14. Charley Levinson Says:

    I believe the current I-75 widening plan should be scrapped in it’s entirety, and MARTA-style commuter rail be placed along a new median. Cobb would only need three stations; Cumberland, Marietta/Big Chicken, and Town Center. No one is questioning these station locations with regards to Bus Rapid Transit (BRT). Why would rail stations be less acceptable?

    Please note that this is my humble opinion, not a formal Democratic position. That said, Democrats do, in the main, believe that mass transit should be a far greater component of our transportation strategy.

  15. bill Says:

    Bill S.
    Me too. I just got my humble opinion. Speaking of, what percentage of commuters go south in order to go north? And what happened to the outer perimeter? and any widening or building outside 285 would of course be much cheaper and less disruptive than inside 285.

  16. David Says:

    Regarding Chris’ health care comment, socialized health care is coming. It’s just a matter of time. My dad, who was a general practicioner, saw this in the mid 50’s. It burns me up that we have to spend our hard earned money to take care of those who have made no preparations for the care of themselves or their families. I don’t ever want to hear any politician say that we are managing the government on the “backs of the poor.” What an absolute f***ing joke. Our country is literally dying the death of one trillion cuts because of the money we have to spend on the social programs for the worthless deadbeats of society.

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