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Hillary Clinton Visits Texas

Bill Simon, January 21st, 2008

A Republican cowboy from Texas attends a social function which Hillary Clinton is attending and trying to gather more support for her nomination. Once she discovers the cowboy is a Republican, she starts to belittle him by talking in a southern drawl and single syllable words.

As she was doing that, she kept swatting at some flies that were buzzing around her head. The cowboy says, “Y’all havin’ some problem with them “circle flies?”

She stopped talking and said, “Well yes, if that’s what they’re called. But I’ve never heard of “circle flies.”

“Well ma’am,” the cowboy replies, “circle flies” hang around ranches. They’re called “circle flies” because they’re almost always found circling around the back end of a horse.”

“Oh,” Hillary replies as she goes back to rambling. But, a moment later she stops and bluntly asks, “Are you calling me a horse’s ass?”

“No, ma’am,” the cowboy replies, “I have too much respect for citizens of New York to call their Senator a horse’s ass.”

“That’s a good thing,” she responds and begins rambling on once more.

After pausing to take a breath, the cowboy, in his best Texas drawl adds, “Hard to fool them flies though.”

The ESP Debates: Fred Thompson vs. Joe Biden, with Anderson Cooper as Moderator

Bill Simon, January 16th, 2008

The ESP Debates: Mike Huckabee vs. John Edwards, With Tim Russert Moderating

Bill Simon, January 16th, 2008

The ESP Debates: John McCain vs. Dennis Kucinich

Bill Simon, January 16th, 2008

The ESP Debates: Mitt Romney vs. Hillary Clinton

Bill Simon, January 16th, 2008

Harry Shearer’s Website scoops-up the entrails of TV news broadcasts and finds a new use for them:

The Record of Southern Governors Who Become President Doesn’t Work For America

Bill Simon, January 14th, 2008

As I was debating someone earlier today, it struck me that the record over the past 32 years of having Southern governors graduate to be President of the United States just hasn’t worked-out too well for the USA, has it?

Point by example:
Jimmy Carter: 1976-1980
Bill Clinton: 1992-2000
George W. Bush: 2000-2008

Can anyone point out to me that more good has come from any of these 3 occupants of the White House than bad?

The more you chew on this, the less you become inclined to be supportive of a Huckabee candidacy for President.

When is the last time the South produced a decent President?

Decent presidents are like decent magnets; it takes a great concept turned into an attractive design and delivered to the right target. That’s why the PERFECT president, like the PERFECT Schedule Magnet cannot suddenly be hatched into existence.

Apparently, in Mike Huckabee’s World, A Lie Is As Good As The Truth…

Bill Simon, January 13th, 2008

…if you can get someone to believe it.

When it comes to the “evangelical Christian community,” they pretty much (with perhaps a 20% exception rate) believe ANYTHING a preacher or a pastor tells them.

Don’t take that as a personal insult if you are a member of the 80%. It’s just what I have observed after watching the crowd that worshipped/worships people like Ralph Reed.

But, back to the modern-day era, it is Presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee who misled people in early January 2008 that he “wasn’t going to run the negative ad that his campaign had created.”

In fact, he DID run it, and thanks to the non-partisan Website, FactCheck.org, we have the documented proof that he DID run the ad he said he wasn’t going to run. What a flaming, lying SOB.

The List of Lies by Mike Huckabee keeps on growing…

Mike Huckabee: The Man With No Commonsense

Bill Simon, January 8th, 2008

What a fascinating witness to the idiocy of the governorship of Mike Huckabee. If he let people like this guy out of prison during his tenure as governor, he’ll probably be inclined to grant some terrorists a pardon were he to become President:

Checkout this video on this Website

Oh…but, I’ll bet some supporters of Huckabee will just chalk-up the death of Lois Davidson’s daughter as “oh, well…that’s life….we want MIKE anyway!”

We just upgraded WordPress

Bill Simon, January 7th, 2008

Everything seemed to go smoothly in the upgrade, and things are back up and running. Apologies to anyone who encountered the upgrade burp when things weren’t quite right.

Please let us know if you encounter any issues with the site due to the upgrade. Thanks!

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Fred Thompson is UP In Iowa!

Bill Simon, December 28th, 2007

Fred Thompson is the only candidate backed by the fiscal and social conservative news publications. Checkout his new commercial…

Waterboarding: A SERE-ing Experience for Tens of Thousands of US Military Personnel

Bill Simon, December 21st, 2007

[Note: The following was written by the author shown, not the blog owner. BUT, this article could just as well be titled “Why Jane Fonda And Her Fellow Libbies Deserve No Forgiveness And Belong In Hell For All Eternity”]

“Train like you Fight, Fight like you Train” is the motto of the world’s most elite pilots, the US Navy’s. Based on lessons learned from survivors of the brutal North Korean and North Vietnam torture of US military prisoners of war, the Department of Defense ordered all branches of the services to implement comprehensive Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (S.E.R.E.) training programs. Every member of Congress should be extremely well versed on the military S.E.R.E. programs since they have had direct oversight and funding of these programs for over 40 years. Viewing the most recent Congressional hearing, one must assume that they are ignorant of or intentionally misrepresent the very programs that they fund and support.

My personal experience with S.E.R.E. training came as a junior pilot flying the F-14A “Tomcat” at NAS Miramar, California. The US Navy S.E.R.E. program requires all Aircrew Members and members of Special Operation Teams (SOF) to undergo both classroom and field experience in these vital techniques. Classroom and field training was accomplished by a cadre of highly trained and disciplined personnel, many of whom had been held as POW’s and tortured by the North Vietnamese.

What actually happens in S.E.R.E. in the field? Classes of 40 or more “students” are put through beach and water (swimming) survival techniques, similar to the TV show “Survivor” but without the rewards challenges. The class is then moved to a remote location to survive and evade prior to entering the US Navy run POW camp. The operation of the evasion complex is based on the trainee being briefed on the enemy position and the location of friendly forces. The object, “to make like a bush”, be patient and deliberate and use all your new taught skills to evade a large contingent of simulated enemy combatants in uniform. They speak like the enemy, act like the enemy, and most importantly train you on how to react to the enemy. While they fire AK-47’s over your head, and search for the ugly “American War Criminals” (thanks Jane), you spend agonizing hours crawling and hiding in an attempt to reach safety. As in real life, few if any make it to safety when behind enemy lines.

When captured you are brought to an initial holding facility. Hands and feet bound and hooded you are thrown into a barbed wire holding cell. As a former football player and wrestler I felt confident that I had that “John Wayne” attitude, Name, Rank and Serial Number….nothing more. Life and the Navy were about to teach this million dollar trained, blond headed, college, Fly Boy a new and most important lesson.

When brought into the first “interrogation”, hooded and hands bound, I was asked the basic questions, no problems…then I was asked a question — the first among many not permitted under the Geneva Convention. Congress, the media and some of the public have forgotten a very basic and important tenant of the Geneva Convention. Terrorists, insurgents, IED Specialists, Suicide Bombers and all those not wearing a uniform in war are not in any form protected by the Geneva Convention. I did not answer the interrogators’ questions: then the fun and games began.

Carefully using a technique of grabbing your shirt at the pockets and wrapping his fists so that his knuckles pressed into the muscles of my breast plate, the instructor flung me across the room karate style and into a corrugated wall. No more questions; around and around the room I flew, a dance which while blind folded and hooded made me feel like “Raggedy Andy” in a tug of war with two bullying kids. Following the first interrogation we were loaded into trucks, bound and hooded, head to who knows were…for the first time real fear starts to set in and you look for inner strength in your heart, training and comrades.

Arriving at the POW Camp I was kept hooded and placed in a small box, 2 feet wide, 3 feet long and maybe 3 feet high. I was left the fetal position, sitting on my butt, stripped nearly naked (just week old BVD’s) and left sealed with your defecation can inside your box. Heat, cold, isolation, no communications, and constant noise, music, propaganda, coupled with verbal abuse by your captors is the norm, 24/7. Every twenty minutes or so the guards come by your box and rattle it, sneaking up and demanding to hear your War Criminal Number (thanks again, Jane, for the classification). No more name, rank or serial number, they want some real answers to real security questions. You agonize in your isolation as your hear other members of your group being pulled out for more “personal one on one interrogation”. Then it’s your turn. Pulled from your box you are again brought in for questioning. If unhappy with your answers or no answers, the “Raggedy Andy” dance began again with vigor in the cold night air.

Then it was time for the dreaded waterboard. What I didn’t know then, but I do now, is that as in all interrogations, both for real world hostile terrorists (non-uniformed combatants) and in S.E.R.E. a highly trained group of doctors, psychologists, interrogators, and strap-in and strap-out rescue teams are always present. My first experience on the “waterboard” was to be laying on my back, on a board with my body at a 30 degree slope, feet in the air, head down, face-up. The straps are all-confining, with the only movement of your body that of the ability to move your head. Slowly water is poured in your face, up your nose, and some in your mouth. The questions from interrogators and amounts of water increase with each unsuccessfulresponse. Soon they have your complete attention as you begin to believe you are going to drown.

Scared, alone, cold and in total lack of control, you learn to “cooperate” to the best of your ability to protect your life. For each person that level of cooperation or resistance is different. You must be tested and trained to know how to respond in the real combat world. Escape was the key to freedom and reward.

Those students escaping would be rewarded with a meal (apple, and PB&J sandwich) was what we had been told by our instructors. On my next journey to interrogation I saw an opportunity to escape. I fled into the woods, naked and cold, and hid. My captors came searching with AK-47’s blazing, and calls to “kill the American War Criminal” in broken English. After an hour of successfully evading, the voices called out in perfect English. “O.K., problem’s over…you escaped, come in for your sandwich.” When I stood up and revealed my position I was met by a crowd of angry enemy guards, “stupid American Criminal”! Back to the Waterboard I went.

This time we went right to the water hose in the face, and a wet towel held tightly on my forehead so that I could not move my head. I had embarrassed my captors and they would now show me that they had total control. The most agonizing and frightful moments are when the wet towel is placed over your nose and mouth and the water hose is placed directly over your mouth. Holding your breath, bucking at the straps, straining to remain conscious, you believe with all your heart that, that, you are going to die.

S.E.R.E. training is not pleasant, but it is critical to properly prepare our most endangered combat forces for the reality of enemy capture. Was I “tortured” by the US military? No. Was I trained in an effort to protect my life and the lives of other American fighting men? Yes! Freedom is not Free, nor does it come without sacrifice. Every good American understands this basic principle of our country and prays for the young men and women who have sacrificed and are out on the front lines protecting us today.

Now, let’s see, Congress: Maybe forty or so students per week, let’s say 100 minimum per month, 1,200 per year for over twenty or thirty years? It could be as many as 40,000 students trained in S.E.R.E. and “tortured” at the direction of, and under the watchful eye of the Congressional Majorities on both sides of the aisle. Be careful that the 40,000 of us who you have “tortured” don’t come after you today with tort claims. I heard it pays about $3 million per claim.

Congress, you need to get the politics out of the war zone and focus on your job. Gaining information in non-lethal interrogations against non-uniformed terrorists is what is protecting our country today. If you had done your job the past twenty years perhaps one of my favorite wingmen in the F-14A would be alive today.

Lt Tom “Stout” McGuinness of the VF-21 “Freelancers” went through S.E.R.E. training during my tenure. But when it came down to the crisis moment, his “interrogators” did not give him the waterboard. They merely went into the cockpit of American Airlines Flight 11, slashed Tom’s throat, and flew the first aircraft into the North Tower of World Trade Center on 9/11.

Congress, let me ask you a very simple question about your leadership and your sworn responsibility. It is a yes or no question, and you have a personal choice to make: Would you endorse the use of a waterboard interrogation technique against a terrorist like Mohamed Atta al Sayed, the leader of the highjacking of American Airlines Flight 11 or not. The answer for me is simple: “turn on the hose.” If you answer anything else, then God help America because Tom died in vain.


Written by Cdr. Frank ‘Spig’ Wead (“Spig” Wead is the pseudonym of a retired Naval aviator who served in the post-Vietnam era. The original Frank “Spig” Wead graduated from the US Naval Academy in 1917 and was a founder of Naval aviation.)

Fred Thompson: Ready For A Prime Time

Bill Simon, December 21st, 2007

Excerpts from “He’s Finally Freddy for Prime Time”

Charles Hurt

New York Post

December 21, 2007

Over the past month, Thompson has walked away from several very strong performances in GOP debates. In the latest one, he held command over the entire field and won the day by refusing to play “hand shows” on stage at the direction of the moderator.

“I said, ‘Nope,’ and everybody pulled their hand down and looked around,” Thompson later recalled.

“I just said to my buddies up there, ‘How are you going to stand up to the leaders of Iran and North Korea if you can’t stand up to an overbearing moderator?’ ”

Thompson also has quietly racked up scores of endorsements from anti-abortion chapters around the country. Those groups are some of the most effective vote herders the GOP has.

And earlier this week, he netted a surprise endorsement from Iowa Rep. Steve King, known in some GOP circles as “the Kingmaker.”

After enduring months of criticism for sporadic and lackluster campaigning, Thompson is now going full-bore on a bus tour of 50 cities and towns around Iowa that his campaign says will reach some 75 percent of projected Republican caucus-goers before Jan. 3.

More than anything else, long-suffering supporters say their spirits have finally been lifted by Thompson’s swagger and enthusiastic demeanor on the trail.

After someone suggested he might still be the conservative dark horse to ride to the White House, he quipped, “Saddle me up!”

To View The Article Please Visit :

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12212007/news/columnists/hes_finally_freddy_for_prime_time_613179.htm

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